Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
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slclick said:
No, but it's already being stated that 5DIV sales could be a non-starter. Hope you've got some artificial butter flavor!
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pierlux said:...which, after the 1000th episode, becomes queasy.AmselAdans said:
I normally stay out of this kind of debates which usually ends up leaving each quarreler even more deep-rooted in his own opinion. But it somehow hurts me seeing those who I, by now, consider teachers and friends, having read literally thousands of their posts for years (I know the opposite is obviously not true - considering me a friend I mean - since I post so rarely, although having been "here" since the very beginning of Canon Rumors back in 2008), endlessly bickering over the same argument thread after thread. What I fear is that someone of the contenders could feel offended in the long run and cancel his membership. Well, as I said, I'd be really sorry about that, my dear teachers and friends (let me steal Surapon's adage for once).
I love this forum, nobody at present is anything near to what Mikael or Canon F1 before him were, please let's not make anybody become looking like they were. Just stop arguing unpleasantly. Please!!!
We could have tons of stuff to talk about, yet I see no threads or discussion, other than transient mention, about what I think are really amazing features of the 7D2, i.e. its auto-ISO capability which even beats that of the 1DX. Or the most sophisticated intelligent viewfinder ever. Or the 150kpixel RGB + IR metering sensor which also beats that of the 1DX. Now these are the features I'd like to read about, being discussed in this forum, not sensor tech or DR. Of course I could start a thread myself on these features instead of waiting for someone else to do it, but there's a reason I write so few posts: I'm terribly slow in writing, plus I'm so busy reading all of yours that I've got too little time left
Now we have THIS sensor inside the 7D2, it's an amazing sensor, could it become better if we talk about it? Of course no. Could it have been better? Maybe yes, but it's no use complaining now. Will Canon sensors evolve in the future? Sure they will, we don't know when, maybe when the pixel density will necessarily increase due to pressing competition, and it will come at a cost. The 7D2 is cheap when accounting for the features it offers, I really expected a higher price point, so I'm pleasantly surprised, actually.
We still don't know for sure if and how the 7D2's sensor is somehow different than that of the 70D. Apparently, IQ is only very very slightly, almost unnoticeably, better (at least to my eyes, but I may be biased because I'd really like things to be this way) at top ISO. We need a real head to head 7D2 vs. 70D comparison to objectively see any difference, i.e. RAW files taken at the same time with identical lighting and all the other possible variables being absolutely equal, which are not yet available.
I have a few months before deciding whether to purchase the 70D or the 7D2 and I'd like all of you guys influence my decision with your debates in a positive, constructive way, as it has always been.
Peace!
Well put! There are tons of things to talk about regarding this camera. The new AF system, combined with ITR gives the promise of tremendous tracking potential for difficult subjects in AI Servo combined with the deep buffer and high frame rate ought to give a large number of spectacular "keepers." I'm also a fan of the OVF design. Being able to see modes, WB etc in the viewfinder without having to take my eye off the subject looks to be a great update and very useful. And the spring loaded, programmable AF mode switch at the base of the joystick is an awesome idea. The amount of care and thought put into ergonomics is quite encouraging!
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For me, I do a lot of video for my local church (in addition to my professional stills work). What the 7DII offers me is native mp4 video. Every time I compile a DVD using Window's movie maker, I loose hours of my life trans coding from the native camera format to mp4...this camera will halve my weekly post production work...as well as giving me 10 fps and a high iso ability 1.6x crop camera with a state of the art AF system.
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Hi,
Take a look at the 7D2 manual and realized that the intervalometer implementation of 7D2 is not that good... you cannot set the exposure time in the intervalometer and the function cannot work in bulb mode which mean that you cannot use the intervalometer for exposure longer than 30s. May be the programmer should take a look at their TC-80N3... or may be they did look at the TC-80N3, that's why they remove it (although I think they might just overlook it)... : Hopefully (double finger cross), they'll fix this by moving the bulb timer (which is under the bulb mode) function into the intervalometer in the next firmware update.
Have a nice day.
Take a look at the 7D2 manual and realized that the intervalometer implementation of 7D2 is not that good... you cannot set the exposure time in the intervalometer and the function cannot work in bulb mode which mean that you cannot use the intervalometer for exposure longer than 30s. May be the programmer should take a look at their TC-80N3... or may be they did look at the TC-80N3, that's why they remove it (although I think they might just overlook it)... :
Hopefully (double finger cross), they'll fix this by moving the bulb timer (which is under the bulb mode) function into the intervalometer in the next firmware update.Have a nice day.
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weixing said:
What tickled me was when the photographer was switching the primary AF point ... he was actually missing some the action. Why still no eye-control?
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Does the 7d mark 2 have auto lens calibration or do you still need a program like FoCal Plus for that?
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chitownjeff said:
You need to perform AFMA yourself, manually or via other software (e.g. FoCal).
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neuroanatomist said:
It also seems there is still no AF support for manual lenses. The camera could/should tell us the direction to move focus so that we can act as a virtual lens motor.
Very sad that no camera does this, as the best lenses in the world are MF (Zeiss, telescopes, etc).
I was hoping that at least with second generation of DPAF we could have it, not from the PDAF but from the sensor (DPAF). It seems not.
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East Wind Photography said:
That's a pity. I was hoping they'd add auto AFMA to it. It'd be such an awesome feature! One would think DPAF would allow it to be implemented without a great deal of effort. Still, I'm quite excited for this camera--it looks to be an amazing tool for wildlife!
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Marauder said:
I am still hoping that after 7D3 is released in 5 years, Canon will begin thinking about it, to release with 7D4 in 10 years. Counting the hours, time goes fast...
EDIT: Oh. wait, in 10 years PDAF is dead, DPAF reigns supreme, no need for AFMA any more.
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East Wind Photography said:
It likely will be, eventually. I started using FoCal's manual mode on my 1D X before that was supported, I've just kept doing it that way.
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neuroanatomist said:
I'm kinda agreeing with this one (and a couple others that have the same take) -- The whole package makes me stay with Canon all these years. It does exactly what I need consistently and if a situation should arise where this "combinations of components and actions in this brand" will not create the image I want, well, it's unlikely Nikon or Sony or any other brand will either.
We need to look at a bigger picture here -- if we successfully create 95% of the images we attempt and miss a few due to 'available tech in a Canon' ... well, we miss shots for other reasons too. It goes with the profession, and goes with any other profession as well - we strive for perfection but most often don't achieve it, but it's the journey that matters.
Technology has limitations as it develops - and Canon has chosen to build a "composite of technology" that as a whole creates some pretty outstanding images - and it's unlikely switching to another brand of equal caliber /price range will pick up that other five percent -- it will just miss a different five percent for different reasons, but you'll still get 95% success (more or less
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Sample from DPreview at 100 iso. It is a bit noisy though, isn't it? I'm not in the "Canon sensors suck, moe DR, moreDR!!"- crowd, but this doesn't look that good at 100 iso.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.galleries.dpreview.com/3034855.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWXD4UV3FXMIDQLQ/20140929/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20140929T184231Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=3bbbe014326c5d53e570083f0e6063b9befecec471136c1336821235c49cb0a2
https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.galleries.dpreview.com/3034855.jpg?X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAIWXD4UV3FXMIDQLQ/20140929/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20140929T184231Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=3bbbe014326c5d53e570083f0e6063b9befecec471136c1336821235c49cb0a2
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