Predictions on What to Expect From Canon in 2016

I hope Canon starts making their bodies lighter and smaller. Like Nikon is doing. Their D750 is incredibly light and smaller than the other full frame dSLRs but still have incredibly good ergonomics and is fully weather sealed.
 
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rs said:
DattaGroover said:
Foxdude said:
I'd like to have EF85mm F1.2 L III...
Just curious. I own an 85 1.2L II

Are you assuming the III will be better (as I'm sure it would be) or are there specifics you don't like about the II (for example slow focus acquisition)?

...I'd suspect with Canons recent roll when it comes to lenses, there's no reason why they can't make a 50/1.2 or an 85/1.2 every bit as sharp wide open as the 35L II.

I'm also very interested to see what Canon can achieve in a EF 85 mm f/1.2 L III. Their Blue Spectrum Refractive technology could see good control of the notable chromatic aberration in the II lens, which I find very distracting for my taste in such a high-end piece of glass.
 
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+1 on the lens

neuroanatomist said:
Some interesting products, to be sure.

Very little of interest to me, though. The 1D X II specs aren't a big enough boost to tempt me, the 1D X meets my needs quite well. I do hope they add anti-flicker though.

The 600/4 DO could be tempting, but only if the IQ is at least as good as the current 600/4 (including performance with 1.4x and 2x TCs).

Right now, the lens most likely to end up in my kit next is the 11-24/4L.
 
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And its a 1DXII!

JMZawodny said:
RGF said:
Looking forward to the 1DX M2 and 5D M4. Wonder much improvement there will be ISO - will new 12,800 be the same as previous 3,200 (2 stop improvement)?

Two full stops might be a stretch, but if they move the digitization onto the sensors we might expect a 2 stop increase in dynamic range at low ISO that will also translate nearly that much of an improvement at high ISO. That would make for a huge year for Canon as many would upgrade from their current bodies, no matter what. I'm certainly going to get one or the other this year as I can't afford for my aging 5D2 to quit on me without replacement in hand.
 
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unfocused said:
I'm also surprised that Canon Rumors Guy is putting the 200-600 that high on the list. It would be nice to see it released in 2016, but I'm not that optimistic.

If it is released, I expect a lot of people on this forum will be disappointed at the price. Being very optimistic, I expect it to be somewhere north of $2,500 -- a little higher than the Sigma sports lens but less than $1,000 more.

afraid you may be correct about the price though the Nikon 200-400 is below $1500. Wonder if Canon will try to compete with this lens and not make the 200-600 consumer grade and not L
 
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MintChocs said:
Hopefully a replacement for the 100D/SL1, though I feel as it aimed at amateurs, Canon is hardly likely to do so.
I'd love to see a prosumer Sl1 replacement. Simply the best tech they can cram into the smallest body possible and letting the price increase from the SL1 accordingly.
 
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RGF said:
unfocused said:
I'm also surprised that Canon Rumors Guy is putting the 200-600 that high on the list. It would be nice to see it released in 2016, but I'm not that optimistic.

If it is released, I expect a lot of people on this forum will be disappointed at the price. Being very optimistic, I expect it to be somewhere north of $2,500 -- a little higher than the Sigma sports lens but less than $1,000 more.

afraid you may be correct about the price though the Nikon 200-400 is below $1500. Wonder if Canon will try to compete with this lens and not make the 200-600 consumer grade and not L

I can't see Canon releasing a 200-600 that is less than either the list price of the Sigma Sports Lens or less than the price of the 100-400. While third party manufacturers may "trick" the autofocus into thinking an f6.3 lens is an f5.6, Canon won't do that, which means it must be f5.6. It will also be USM, as a slow-focusing 200-600mm is not going to cut it. I don't think Canon will worry too much about the pricing of the Nikon -- it's not like Canon users will buy a Nikon lens. Finally, Canon is not blind to the value of putting a red ring on their lenses, which adds to the perceived value.

Honestly, if a 200-600 materializes for under $3,000 it will sell very well. As for me personally, I'll keep using my 150-600 Sigma Contemporary until the Canon shows up in the refurbished store on a 15% off sale, which means I'm probably two years or more away from getting this lens when and if it materializes.
 
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that1guyy said:
I hope Canon starts making their bodies lighter and smaller. Like Nikon is doing. Their D750 is incredibly light and smaller than the other full frame dSLRs but still have incredibly good ergonomics and is fully weather sealed.

I like the weight, especially when coupled with a heavy lens like the 70-200. Gives it a more balanced feel. But you do feel it at the end of the day
 
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unfocused said:
RGF said:
unfocused said:
I'm also surprised that Canon Rumors Guy is putting the 200-600 that high on the list. It would be nice to see it released in 2016, but I'm not that optimistic.

If it is released, I expect a lot of people on this forum will be disappointed at the price. Being very optimistic, I expect it to be somewhere north of $2,500 -- a little higher than the Sigma sports lens but less than $1,000 more.

afraid you may be correct about the price though the Nikon 200-400 is below $1500. Wonder if Canon will try to compete with this lens and not make the 200-600 consumer grade and not L

I can't see Canon releasing a 200-600 that is less than either the list price of the Sigma Sports Lens or less than the price of the 100-400. While third party manufacturers may "trick" the autofocus into thinking an f6.3 lens is an f5.6, Canon won't do that, which means it must be f5.6. It will also be USM, as a slow-focusing 200-600mm is not going to cut it. I don't think Canon will worry too much about the pricing of the Nikon -- it's not like Canon users will buy a Nikon lens. Finally, Canon is not blind to the value of putting a red ring on their lenses, which adds to the perceived value.

Honestly, if a 200-600 materializes for under $3,000 it will sell very well. As for me personally, I'll keep using my 150-600 Sigma Contemporary until the Canon shows up in the refurbished store on a 15% off sale, which means I'm probably two years or more away from getting this lens when and if it materializes.

You guys are crazy, under $3,000 for a 107mm front element 200-600mm L IS tele zoom, that is the same sized front element with more internal elements and much more complicated build as well as being bigger and heavier than the 300 f2.8 IS MkII that costs $6,000.
 
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That lens will sell very well when it comes out at double or more what you just said.

privatebydesign said:
unfocused said:
RGF said:
unfocused said:
I'm also surprised that Canon Rumors Guy is putting the 200-600 that high on the list. It would be nice to see it released in 2016, but I'm not that optimistic.

If it is released, I expect a lot of people on this forum will be disappointed at the price. Being very optimistic, I expect it to be somewhere north of $2,500 -- a little higher than the Sigma sports lens but less than $1,000 more.

afraid you may be correct about the price though the Nikon 200-400 is below $1500. Wonder if Canon will try to compete with this lens and not make the 200-600 consumer grade and not L

I can't see Canon releasing a 200-600 that is less than either the list price of the Sigma Sports Lens or less than the price of the 100-400. While third party manufacturers may "trick" the autofocus into thinking an f6.3 lens is an f5.6, Canon won't do that, which means it must be f5.6. It will also be USM, as a slow-focusing 200-600mm is not going to cut it. I don't think Canon will worry too much about the pricing of the Nikon -- it's not like Canon users will buy a Nikon lens. Finally, Canon is not blind to the value of putting a red ring on their lenses, which adds to the perceived value.

Honestly, if a 200-600 materializes for under $3,000 it will sell very well. As for me personally, I'll keep using my 150-600 Sigma Contemporary until the Canon shows up in the refurbished store on a 15% off sale, which means I'm probably two years or more away from getting this lens when and if it materializes.

You guys are crazy, under $3,000 for a 107mm front element 200-600mm L IS tele zoom, that is the same sized front element with more internal elements and much more complicated build as well as being bigger and heavier than the 300 f2.8 IS MkII that costs $6,000.
 
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As every year, Canon will not bring anything that excites me:

• 1DX II - marginally improved iteration, sensor tech still lagging, 4k, 8000 USD/Euro, mirrorslap, no thanks
• 5D 4 - marginally improved iteration, sensor tech still lagging, 4000 USD/Euro, mirrorslap, not as good as D810, no thanks
• 80D - marginal iteration, carefully positioned below 7D2, mirrorslap, no thanks
• 3 or 4 rebels, not even marginally omproved, tunnel viewfinder, 18 mp sensor from 2001, mirrorflip, no thanks
• SL2 - marginal iteration, carefully marketing differentiated against rebels and 70D, mirrorflip, no thanks
• EOS M4 - marginal iteration, with EVF, price hiked to 1500 USD/euro, mot as good as 2013 Sony A600, no mirrorslap, but still no thanks

• 200-600, 600 DO, 800 II, 1200 II and a few more superteles, all as big, white and expensive as a lear jet, no thanks
• some L primes as big and expensive as 35 II, no thanks
• some 55-350/5.6-6.7 consumer zooms, no thanks

Most importantly: No kick-ass FF mirrorless system that blows Sony A7 system totally out of the water. So, not interested Canon. Will not buy anything of the above listed stuff. Purchase of Sony A7R II in late 2016 not unlikely, when price comes down. Or kick-ass Sony A8 in 2017.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
I think we’re all waiting eagerly for 2016, as we expect a lot of new consumer, prosumer and professional products from Canon.

Of course I hope for a lot of new releases so maybe the ones I am looking for are included.
Looking at the last few years and Canon's marketeting strategy I am not sure if we'll see half of what's mentioned at all.

My two cents on this list:

  • Canon EOS-1D X Mark II: no-brainer as it is an Olympic games year, agreed. Only release date and specs are disputable
  • Canon EOS 5D Mark IV: surely in 2016 but I see it after the Olympics and closer to Photokina, so say late Q2 or early Q3.
  • Canon EOS 6D Mark II: Not this year. Too many FF bodies in one year. quite unlikely for Canon. But I hope to be true
  • Canon EOS 80D: Must come this year. Maybe Q1, maybe for Photokina but with enough distance to any FF announcement.
    At least right on time for the Christmas sales
  • Canon EOS M4: Whatever will come, whenever it'll come I've lost my faith in EOS M line. They messed up the relaunch once the can do it again.

As for the lenses:
  • Canon EF 16-35 f/2.8L III: Should come together with the 1DX2
  • Canon EF 200-600 f/4.5-5.6L IS: This one would surprise me if it comes before 2017. A non-L supertele is wanted more by the crowd
  • An ultrawide Non-L EF zoom: Don't know. Maybe together with the 80D?
  • Canon EF 50 f/1.4 USM: I really hope for this one. But I can't belive it to come before a new 50L
  • Canon EF 600mm f/4 DO IS: As we already saw a mockup of this I'd say this will be out at the Olympics - at least for some there
  • Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L III: Don't know. I's be in for a new 85/1.8
  • Canon EF 200 f/2L IS II: I can't believe it for this year. Too many big whites in one year.
  • Canon EF 800 f/5.6L IS II: I can't believe it for this year, too. Too many big whites in one year. But it was mentioned several times - so maybe...

My personal wish list:
  • EF 50 f/1.4 USM II
  • EF 85 f/1.8 USM II (maybe in 2017)
  • EOS 5D4, so much improved that I'll be really tempted. Otherwise I'll wait for 5D5
 
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roxics said:
I expect all Canon DSLRs this year to be 4K. I just bought a used smartphone from 2013 for $175 that shoots 4K. Even iPhones that are usually the last to adopt such features now shoot 4K. If a $500+ dollar dedicated camera doesn't shoot 4K, there will be hell to pay. Same with wifi, eveything these days has wifi, even my $100 blu-ray player from three years ago.

There are certain things in technoogy we expect to happen for good reason. Mostly because such technologies have already saturated the market, that leaving them out just shouts "greed" on the part of the manufacturer at a certain point.

It's easy to put put 4K on a smartphone as the sensor is tiny, as we know Canon gave us the first full frame DSLR with 4K in 2012(1DC), and I think the 1DX2 will have that capability, however I think you will be disappointed if you're expecting it on anything else as Canon really don't see their DSLRs as video devices anymore. However they may give us a hybrid mirrorless system camera with 4K. Either way it will be interesting.
 
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