Stock Notice: Canon EOS R5 Mark II at B&H Photo

[AlanF]

Was it the same 11% mark-up ante brexit?

No, because of the single market it was the same price all over. Before we joined the EU, we were price gouged on everything. I can't believe how people were taken in to vote for Brexit.

 

[AlanF]

I'm surprised that they do the EN-US localization. That's a surprising cost saving.

The markup in the UK across the board on non-UK vendors in the last couple of years has been, at least by their statements, tied to their insecurity about the Pound as Brexit begins to be fully implemented. There has been, for example, a 30% difference in the US/UK currency conversion with the Pound dropping as low as US$1.09 and as high as $1.42 in the last few years. The pricing in September 2022 scared everybody a lot. They also worry that as UK stops being tied to EU regulations that they'll have to absorb market specific new regulations that will force them to have to change or certify in new ways rather than assuming an EU version with different wording would be legal in the UK.

Nikon and Sony do not do the same high price gouging - their prices in the UK are similar to those in the EU, maybe 4-5% higher on occasion. The huge price gouging is Canon specific. I regard the comments you have raised as company BS -they can change prices throughout the year according to the exchange rate.

 

[Viggo]

Which isn't true. Available at online retailers, not in big quantities but there are bodies and/or kits readily available.

Were?

 

[Del Paso]

Nikon and Sony do not do the same high price gouging - their prices in the UK are similar to those in the EU, maybe 4-5% higher on occasion. The huge price gouging is Canon specific. I regard the comments you have raised as company BS -they can change prices throughout the year according to the exchange rate.

Fortunately, there are a few reputed grey market companies in the UK.
None in France or, I guess, in Germany and Italy.
But buying fron British grey marketers is still easy and possible, despite Brexit.
By the way, if nothing has changed, cameras were (are?) more expensive in Switzerland, despite a 7% VAT, compared to EU's usual 19%.

 

[Del Paso]

Nikon and Sony do not do the same high price gouging - their prices in the UK are similar to those in the EU, maybe 4-5% higher on occasion. The huge price gouging is Canon specific. I regard the comments you have raised as company BS -they can change prices throughout the year according to the exchange rate.

They can and they should. But it seems they can afford not to do so...

 

[MikeGalos]

Nikon and Sony do not do the same high price gouging - their prices in the UK are similar to those in the EU, maybe 4-5% higher on occasion. The huge price gouging is Canon specific. I regard the comments you have raised as company BS -they can change prices throughout the year according to the exchange rate.

They can but it drives their dealers crazy since they then have to account for what wholesale price they paid and whether that price was on the purchase date or the Net+30 date or whether it does or doesn't include promotions. Not to mention the liability if they place an ad and have to honor that price even though the price changed from the distributor.

Sorry but that's too much of a nightmare for all involved.

 

[sanj]

So, why isn't the UK being flooded with them? The list price of the R5ii converts to $5988 or before tax $4990.

Good question

 

[sanj]

Nearing 3 days now. Still available at BH. So either enough units are available to not only to meet the pre-orders list but also current sales. Either there are enough units available (BH is a popular store) or it is not selling. Which one is it??

 

[AlanF]

They can but it drives their dealers crazy since they then have to account for what wholesale price they paid and whether that price was on the purchase date or the Net+30 date or whether it does or doesn't include promotions. Not to mention the liability if they place an ad and have to honor that price even though the price changed from the distributor.

Sorry but that's too much of a nightmare for all involved.

Can we give up this exchange rate thing. It’s a red herring like all the other reasons you have proposed and have been found wanting. The price excess here has been pretty constant here over the past couple of years, irrespective of whether the £ looks like it is going up or down. Canon has a policy of differential pricing over the world.

 

[alFR]

Nearing 3 days now. Still available at BH. So enough are available to not only to meet the pre-orders list but also current sales. Either there are enough units available (BH is a popular store) or it is not selling. Which one is it??

Or maybe they've shipped everything they have to the USA at the expense of the rest of the world. They're still like rocking horse poop over here in the UK. I'm waiting on a replacement for a defective one and the Canon rep told my retailer that they're getting less than 20 bodies for the whole of the UK in September. Obviously that's very different to what Mark McG was told:

Speaking to the rep, they gave approx figures for numbers shipped to the UK - approx 8,500 for release day to cover all UK retailers. Said they are due to get 1-2 shipments a month with between 1,500 and 3,000 units per shipment.

So who knows what the real situation is...

 

[clarus]

Were?

I only checked one source, Digitec/Galaxus (serving the entire German speaking region), and they had in stock, shipping next day. Both as a gray import and in an official version with Canon's extended guarantee. Didn't look further. BTW, the same with the 200-800, it was available since February intermittently, though only as an import version with standard warranty (2 years bring-in).
Got my R5II on August 21 from a small physical shop, though I preordered in March.
If you want one, you can get one.

 

[Viggo]

I only checked one source, Digitec/Galaxus (serving the entire German speaking region), and they had in stock, shipping next day. Both as a gray import and in an official version with Canon's extended guarantee. Didn't look further. BTW, the same with the 200-800, it was available since February intermittently, though only as an import version with standard warranty (2 years bring-in).
Got my R5II on August 21 from a small physical shop, though I preordered in March.
If you want one, you can get one.

No one in Norway or even Scandinavia has one. And if I get it outside Norway I don’t get 5 year warranty and I’ll have to pay 25 % sales tax on the way in, it will be ridiculously expensive, especially since the NOK isn’t at its best now. Buying from Germany to here it would cost 6700 US dollars…

 

[Askeladden]

Guessing the tax levels in Yurop makes the cameras move slower. It makes sense from a business standpoint to allocate to the markets where most product is moved. Read in the ad of someone trying to flip one that only 13 cameras got allocated to the largest retailer in Norway, don't know if that is true or not, but it is obvious that there are none to be had. He is charging a 10% markup on retail, but no takers so far.

The 200-800 is available now though.

 

[Viggo]

Guessing the tax levels in Yurop makes the cameras move slower. It makes sense from a business standpoint to allocate to the markets where most product is moved. Read in the ad of someone trying to flip one that only 13 cameras got allocated to the largest retailer in Norway, don't know if that is true or not, but it is obvious that there are none to be had. He is charging a 10% markup on retail, but no takers so far.

The 200-800 is available now though.

Just saw that ad… I hope he steps on a rusty nail. Actually something much worse, but I’ll refrain from saying that here… I sent him a message and see what he says..

 

[AlanF]

Just saw that ad… I hope he steps on a rusty nail. Actually something much worse, butt I’ll refrain from saying that here… I sent him a message and see what he says..

You think that's bad. A Canon authorised seller here, Mifsuds, is selling on eBay their LP-E6Ps for £149.99 ($200), £40 above the price in the UK Canon Store.

 

[Del Paso]

No one in Norway or even Scandinavia has one. And if I get it outside Norway I don’t get 5 year warranty and I’ll have to pay 25 % sales tax on the way in, it will be ridiculously expensive, especially since the NOK isn’t at its best now. Buying from Germany to here it would cost 6700 US dollars…

Ever checked with Panamoz? They sell grey import cameras "all taxes and customs paid" despite no longer being part of the EC. Whether they sell in Norge, I don't know. But it's worth a try!

 

[Del Paso]

Just saw that ad… I hope he steps on a rusty nail. Actually something much worse, but I’ll refrain from saying that here… I sent him a message and see what he says..

I've just checked, Panamoz have the R5 II in stock (11:25 PM)

 

[AlanF]

I've just checked, Panamoz have the R5 II in stock (11:25 PM)

£3650 instead of £4499. I'm really tempted to send mine back and get one from them.

 

[sanj]

As I type this, the camera is available on both Canon and BH website. 1. Are all the pre-orderers already filled by both Canon and BH? I mean how can they have the camera for current sales without first shipping out pre-orders? 2. Since the camera is available on both vendors (3 days!!), then is the initial buying frenzy over with people who wanted it?
So confused....

 

[sanj]

I've just checked, Panamoz have the R5 II in stock (11:25 PM)

Still there...