Stock Notice: Canon EOS R5 Mark II at B&H Photo

I mentioned factors leading to that in a separate comment: VAT, import duties, testing regimes, tax rates on the gross profit etc.

You don't have to believe me, though. I don't really care. Think as you wish.
If you provide the evidence of how those hypothetical factors do actually apply in practice to the pricing of Canon goods here, then I would certainly believe you if they accounted for the price difference. Without details, it's just speculation.
 
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Or maybe they've shipped everything they have to the USA at the expense of the rest of the world. They're still like rocking horse poop over here in the UK. I'm waiting on a replacement for a defective one and the Canon rep told my retailer that they're getting less than 20 bodies for the whole of the UK in September. Obviously that's very different to what Mark McG was told:

So who knows what the real situation is...
One of the other posters here got one from WEX in the delivery they got around the 12th September and was told WEX had gotten 20 cameras.
 
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One of the other posters here got one from WEX in the delivery they got around the 12th September and was told WEX had gotten 20 cameras.
So basically the reps are saying wildly different things to different people and the reality of what's arriving doesn't seem to match either thing they're saying. It's starting to look increasingly like the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing.
 
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The camera is still available in THREE places in the USA and has been for more than 4 days. It is also available in Europe. I have no option but to conclude that Canon and BH have already filled out their pre-orders and have the camera available for immediate shipping. I am also now wondering if the demand for the camera is much lower than I thought.
 
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Could simply be due to a simple fact, which I experienced in our manufacturing, that a bottleneck issue could be suddenly and unexpectedly solved. Availability of components can very quickly improve, just like a machining or assembly process.
I don't believe in "Big Bad Canon retaining cameras" and suddenly releasing them. This would be plain ridiculous, and I don't believe Canon would resort to such cheap marketing tricks. Canon are no QVC.
 
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Available in Japan:
LOL. I know you’re going to believe what you want, but you need to loosen the tinfoil hat just a little bit and check your facts once in a while. The screenshot you posted from “Japan Camera” is a store of that name in Ontario, Canada. The English text and the $ in front of the price were rather significant clues, don’t you think?

Using false information to support conspiracy theories is the norm, but I expected better from you.

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The delay notice was on the Canon Japan website. Show us that the camera is available in Japan if you want to support your claim.
 
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Could simply be due to a simple fact, which I experienced in our manufacturing, that a bottleneck issue could be suddenly and unexpectedly solved. Availability of components can very quickly improve, just like a machining or assembly process.
I don't believe in "Big Bad Canon retaining cameras" and suddenly releasing them. This would be plain ridiculous, and I don't believe Canon would resort to such cheap marketing tricks. Canon are no QVC.
When the RF 28/2.8 was announced, it was put on the delay list on the Canon Japan website the month it was supposed to ship. I have no idea when it was available in Japan, but US stores had stock to ship even before the announced availability date (I got mine from Adorama without a preorder). It was off the delay list the next month.

Somehow, I doubt that was a conspiracy by Big Bad Canon to drive up preorder sales for that $300 profit engine. ;)
 
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If you provide the evidence of how those hypothetical factors do actually apply in practice to the pricing of Canon goods here, then I would certainly believe you if they accounted for the price difference. Without details, it's just speculation.
A few years back (when the 5DIII was launched) I wrote a very polite but direct letter to the UK CEO of Canon distribution to ask why the camera was substantially more expensive in the Uk vs the USA. At the time the UK Pound was worth 2 to one US Dollar and we were being charged Pound for Dollar plus UK VAT. It took him about 3 weeks to reply and he sent me a very nice set of brocures. A copy of LensWorks III and a hand signed letter. He basically said that the USA pricing excludes all local taxes and their nuanced market expects a low common pricing across all shops with no discounts expected.

Canon's Uk pricing policy sets a high RRP, allowing dealers a larger margin to discount and local discounts were expected on each end sale. HOWEVER, we all know that in recent years, Canon have squished the margins of the dealers and are deliberately stemming supply so the dealers so they are forced to sell the limited supply of new stock at the inflated RRP.
I also recived an email a few days later that basically said that Canon charge the UK high prices because they can and the photographers buy them a that price.

Since this time I now buy all my UK gear from the grey market or from HDEW.
 
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LOL. I know you’re going to believe what you want, but you need to loosen the tinfoil hat just a little bit and check your facts once in a while. The screenshot you posted from “Japan Camera” is a store of that name in Ontario, Canada. The English text and the $ in front of the price were rather significant clues, don’t you think?

Using false information to support conspiracy theories is the norm, but I expected better from you.

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The delay notice was on the Canon Japan website. Show us that the camera is available in Japan if you want to support your claim.
Just because I did not notice that this was not a store in Japan does not mean that is is not available at many other places. What conspiracy? It has been established that the delay notice was for worldwide availability... My turn for: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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LOL. I know you’re going to believe what you want, but you need to loosen the tinfoil hat just a little bit and check your facts once in a while. The screenshot you posted from “Japan Camera” is a store of that name in Ontario, Canada. The English text and the $ in front of the price were rather significant clues, don’t you think?

Using false information to support conspiracy theories is the norm, but I expected better from you.

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The delay notice was on the Canon Japan website. Show us that the camera is available in Japan if you want to support your claim.

Established because Canon said so? Or by something akin to a CR3 post on a this rumor website? Did you know that 'gullible' is not in the dictionary? :ROFLMAO:

So, is the R5II available in Japan or not?
Dont be stupid Neuro. Or prove that it was Japan specific.
 
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I also recived an email a few days later that basically said that Canon charge the UK high prices because they can and the photographers buy them a that price.

Since this time I now buy all my UK gear from the grey market or from HDEW.
You are absolutely correct and further Canon actually does not allow dealers in the UK to discount. I should have had the patience to wait but I was so fortunate to get the original R5 early that I was hit by FOMO this time. Again, it beats me how people who do not know the situation here make unwarranted claims about pricing, including claiming the different taxation - whenever I compare prices, I quote the UK price with tax/VAT taken off to compare with US pre-tax price.
 
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You are absolutely correct and further Canon actually does not allow dealers in the UK to discount. I should have had the patience to wait but I was so fortunate to get the original R5 early that I was hit by FOMO this time. Again, it beats me how people who do not know the situation here make unwarranted claims about pricing, including claiming the different taxation - whenever I compare prices, I quote the UK price with tax/VAT taken off to compare with US pre-tax price.
Not allowing discounting would amount to price fixing under competition law and would be illegal. Generally, manufacturers are allowed to set a RRP which distributors/retailers must not exceed, but they cannot generally prohibit distributors/retailers from going below this price. The difficulty is that the price to the distributor/retailer probably doesn't leave much margin for profit, which is why you don't see any discounts because there is no incentive to do so.
 
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