No camera is perfect. And no human being is either (I am told this three times a day by my wife with her finger pointing at me.)
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The Canon EOS R1 is coming, here are a few things to expect
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No, I don't want it. It would be an awesome camera, but not $2500 more awesome than my R5, which I think would be the amount of money needed after trading in my R5 for the R3-with-R5-sensor.Exactly. That is what EVERBODY wants, so it probably is not going to happen.
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Sounds like an R5s. Studio camera users don't need extremely rugged bodies. Consider the 5D2 and 1Ds3 situation.
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For me a high resolution R1 camera (60+ MP) without a lower resolution mode would be questionable. If the R1 is going to be a rugged jack of all trades I would suspect it would have to offer a high res and low res mode on sensor to meet that objective. If global shutter is out I suspect an even faster readout speed than the R3 similar to A1 or even faster?
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I have small ish hands and still much prefer a bulky gripped body despite the extra weight. I think they’re more confidence inspiring and feel tougher. And I don’t drive, so I am my own Sherpa.
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I hope you are correct. Rumors from Q1 2021 suggested 85 MP @ 20 fps or 21 MP @ 40 fps and quad-pixel AF technology. Those would be two features that would differentiate the R1 from other FF systems.
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Tradeoff FPS vs MPX:
- Max MPX & 16 bit color depth is more a R5S/R5II thing than a R1 thing. 30.3 MPX with all the specs of the R3 Sensor will do the job (so, no 8k vid).
- Max FPS is crucial by holding full AF performance, 14 bit color depth and uncompressed RAW. Min the 30 PPS provided by R3. By far more relevance are 50 FPS than 50 MPX
Alternative: Will the time be ready providing a Sensor with two modes:
- FPS-mode: 20 MPX, 50 FPS, 14bit uncompressed RAW
- MPX-mode: 80 MPX, 10 FPS, 16bit uncompressed RAW
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Camera advances these days have removed the requirement for talent. Got enough cash and you too can claim to be a world class photographer.
My daughter is traveling around the world with a film camera and is enjoying the learning experience. And in that way I envy her.
My daughter is traveling around the world with a film camera and is enjoying the learning experience. And in that way I envy her.
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This "story" by Canon rumors is a marketing release by Canon to stop people defecting to Nikon. There will be a continued stream of such "rumors" over the next 18 months sbout the R1 to keep people interested in Canon and to stop them defecting.
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A small percentage of people “defected” from Canon to Sony at one stage, but that was largely because Canon didn’t have a full-frame IBIS-equipped MILC. Those who did “defect” usually added a Sony body to their existing kit, and were, initially at least, using adapted Canon EF glass on them.
The position today is very different. Canon, Nikon and Sony all have exceedingly good cameras, with little to differentiate them in terms of image quality or performance. The differences between them are largely ergonomic.
Consequently, the number of people who feel any need or desire to “defect” is very small, particularly as the overwhelming majority of people who are in the market for any high-end camera, will already have substantial investment in lenses, extenders, flashguns etc.
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I believe there is a lot of truth in those rumours. Most likely, Canon have had an APS-C RF camera in development for some time, but have been waiting to see how viable the market is, before committing to finalising design. Now that Nikon, Sony and Panasonic all have APS-C models on the market, I think Canon will join them and release such a model within the next few months. Demand is highest for FF, but there are a hell of a lot of sports and wildlife photographers who would absolutely leap at the chance of acquiring a pro-grade Canon sports/action APS-C body.
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You can technically claim anything you want until the client asks for a demo reel or a sample of your work. That will quickly humble most people regardless of how many tens of thousands of gear they have. But some people do buy camera gear as a form of conspicuous consumption among their fellow peers, and obviously it isn't a direct reflection of their skill levels either. Even then, I think everyone has their own valid reasons. Some people like to collect cameras and never planned to pursue a trade in this field and simply like having the "best" for bragging rights, etc.
The real darker side to this is people using their gear to mislead people for their actual motivations. Me and a few peers ran photo and lighting workshops many years ago and a lot of people would show up with the newest and most expensive gear. Naturally we would assume they were at some level in the trade, but it was evident after peeking at some rear screens that a particular few had more perverse motivations. Their high end taste in camera gear somehow lent credence to their lack of talent and darker intent.
I think a better statement would be that "camera advances haven't removed the requirement for talent, but has given more headroom for those with talent to do more or better than what they were using previously."
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Canon has had APS-C MILCs since 2012. Sony and Fuji have had them as long or longer. Only Nikon ‘now has them’.
The ‘mid-range’ and ‘high-end’ APS-C MILC market is most likely nearly identical to the ‘mid-range’ and ‘high-end’ APS-C DSLR market’ Canon knows that market very, very well. What ever happened to the 7DIII, anyway?
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You are talking literally about me in your opening statement. I literally added a Sony body to my Canon kit and adapted EF glass on it. I later didn't want the handicap of adapters (The Metabones adapter was plenty buggy) and added a few native Sony lenses. That eventually led to another Sony body and making the decision to add a working native trinity lens set to my Sony kit. That worked out well so I got rid of my Canon bodies and kept my Canon glass for video work. After some time, I decided having to maintain two sets of lenses was a PITA, so I added a Sony cinema body and let go of the rest of my Canon lenses.
If Canon had jumped into the fold much earlier, I might have taken a different approach. I even tried Canon once more with the 5DIV and C200, but it didn't pan out. I took a risk with Sony even after their various format failures and in the future may reconsider Canon again but these new releases of late have become much more iterative than really offering something new. Like you mentioned, the differences are largely ergonomic and while Sony was pretty bad from the start, they have taken plenty of notes and have made strides in this area.
These days it seems China and DJI with its strange 4D Ronin seems to be much more interesting in general than some of these newest releases and rumors.
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