Here are a couple of images of the EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II

[Michael Clark]

The eye piece if definitely for video to block out light and see the EVF better. I can tell you don't do video lol. Also I have a question for you that you might know. Usually people tether with USB because most cameras don't have LAN ports but can the rj45 can be used for photo tethering or just for control?

I'm guessing that is a third party eyepiece. Since the R5 Mark II apparently has the same EVF and eyepiece of the R3, presumably any aftermarket eyepiece made for the R would also fit the R5 Mark II?

If not, it's certainly an optional accessory, not the eyepiece shipped with the camera.

 

[Michael Clark]

Yeah, point taken. My whole line of reasoning is flawed. I would have deleted my post if I could.

That said, the "charge what the market will bear" excuse limps a little because this isn't a free market. Consumers can't say, "I'll just choose a different 45 MP body where the manufacturer didn't gratuitously raise the price $300 at the last minute based on nothing but the fact that they can get away with it," because Canon, Sony, Nikon, and the rest are all closed ecosystems. The barrier to switching systems is huge. Consumers don't have real choice. If they did, Canon wouldn't be in a position where they could force consumers to buy only RF glass. Frankly, I'd rather see the DOJ go after Canon, Nikon, and Sony than Apple.

They're also hedging their bets a bit based on not wanting to raise the price over the next few years. With the instability in market/currency rate conditions following the US Presidential debate in late June, all of the financial analysts are kind of holding their breath to see how it all shakes out.

Once the initial orders are all filled, we'll probably see a more or less permanent modest rebate on the R5 Mark II, with periodic deeper discounts around Black Friday, 2026 and mid-summer June, 2027.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

If you're talking about the R5 Mark II, it will drop on Black Friday, 2026. The R5 debuted in July 2020 and all pre-orders had not even been filled by Black Friday, 2020. There was no R5 discount on Black Friday, 2021 either. It was 2022 before we saw a Black Friday price reduction for the R5.

That was during a supply shortage.
I do not anticipate the R5 II holding on to its long price as long unless the demand is a lot higher or we have another supply shortage.

 

[MikeGalos]

When has Canon's marketing department ever acknowledged the existence of other camera makers?

It is an old rule in marketing that if you mention your competitor you are giving them free advertising. Almost nobody mentions competitors in marketing in any industry unless you are so small that nobody knows you are competing in that market. Even then once you have name recognition at all in that market you stop talking about your competitors and focus on why you are a good choice.

Apple's Get a Mac (Mac vs PC) ads were a rare exception and were done when they were in a very distant second place with only 4.3% of the personal computer market so they were fighting "Oh, are they still around?" as their marketing question.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Apple's Get a Mac (Mac vs PC) ads were a rare exception and were done when they were in a very distant second place.

 

[MikeGalos]

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At the time of the campaign, Macintosh was at 4.3% of the desktop/laptop computer market. Eighteen years later it currently has 14.7% of that market.

You could say that the campaign was a huge success and led to them tripling their share.
You could say that the campaign was a failure that only got them ten percentage points in nearly two decades and left them as they started in a distant second place.

The numbers don't change. How they are spun does.

 

[Michael Clark]

It is an old rule in marketing that if you mention your competitor you are giving them free advertising. Almost nobody mentions competitors in marketing in any industry unless you are so small that nobody knows you are competing in that market. Even then once you have name recognition at all in that market you stop talking about your competitors and focus on why you are a good choice.

Apple's Get a Mac (Mac vs PC) ads were a rare exception and were done when they were in a very distant second place with only 4.3% of the personal computer market so they were fighting "Oh, are they still around?" as their marketing question.

It was a rhetorical question.

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Apple's Get a Mac (Mac vs PC) ads were a rare exception and were done when they were in a very distant second place with only 4.3% of the personal computer market so they were fighting "Oh, are they still around?" as their marketing question.

It is not actually that rare.
A PC is not a brand.
It is another product category.
They never mention Windows.