The Canon EOS R5 Mark II – We have now seen it

The Canon EOS R5 Mark II is now in the hands of people outside of the closed testing circle of Canon.

We have now seen some images of the camera, but cannot post them in any way shape or form. This is standard practice for us, but I'm sure other sites will be posting images in the near future. Or we will get permission to do so.

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I'm stoked on the grip! It's always nice to see some of the patent discoveries turn into real products.
 
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The R5II will have to sell at a significant discount to the A1II if it is going to only match the A1 in most of the fundamental features.
Why? Does it seem likely that many users will switch systems? Forum participants don't represent the real world...people here seem to believe that Canon must entice Sony users to buy Canon cameras or Canon users to not buy Sony cameras. The reality is more likely that Canon needs to entice Canon users to buy new Canon cameras instead of just hanging on to the Canon cameras they have.

The strategy of a market leader is typically not the same as a market follower trying to make gains.
 
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I appreciate that there are video users who will love all the updates. But for stills-only shooters, they only add cost, weight, and complexity. For both video shooters AND stills shooters, it would have been nice to have two separate, more purpose-focused cameras.
the video portions are heavily used by stills.

how do you get your extremely fast low blackout EVF?

the only difference between video and stills is the fact that the shutter never closes on video and takes an singular image, otherwise, for video you are simply recording the camera's video feed that must be there anyway.

overheating and better thermal management have a huge impact on stills performance as well.

anything they can improve for some of the core areas like this will certainly improve your stills experience. just won't be as noticeable.
 
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I'm stoked on the grip! It's always nice to see some of the patent discoveries turn into real products.
What about the internal ND filter patent for "an R5 series camera" though? Will this patent also be implemented in the R5 Mark II or will we "only" see the active cooling grip. And would that mean that certain video features like for example 8K60p or 4KHQ (oversampled full sensor readout 4K) with 60 or 120fps will only be available with the active cooling grip attached or will this grip only give us MORE recording time in these modes (8K60p, 4KHQ120p)?

And I'd love to know if the R5 Mark II will feature BUILT-IN GPS
Thank you very much in advance!
 
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Well I'd sure hope Canon can one up what will be a 3.5 year old camera when the R5II finally ships. But what will happen in Nov 2024 when the A1II comes out? 50MP @ 60FPS with flawless pre-capture implementation and who knows what other goodies Sony will have cooked up by then?
The R5II will have to sell at a significant discount to the A1II if it is going to only match the A1 in most of the fundamental features.

the A1 is a $6500 camera - what exactly does it have to do with a $3999 camera that is around (checks notes) .. 39% less in price at launch? why would the R5 which isn't even the same categorization have to sell for far less?
 
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the video portions are heavily used by stills.

how do you get your extremely fast low blackout EVF?

the only difference between video and stills is the fact that the shutter never closes on video and takes an singular image, otherwise, for video you are simply recording the camera's video feed that must be there anyway.

overheating and better thermal management have a huge impact on stills performance as well.

anything they can improve for some of the core areas like this will certainly improve your stills experience. just won't be as noticeable.
Do you know if the R5 Mark II will have a higher dynamic range than that of the R5 (14.6 EV) in stills?
And will there be an option to shoot 16-bit RAW with the R5 Mark II?
 
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This is very exciting. Especially the cooling solutions!!!

There are a some video centric things from R5C I would love to see in the R5

1. Shutter Angle options
2. Tooling. False Colors. Advanced Wave Forms, HDMI options for these
3. The R5c has a bit better dynamic range and better noise patterns in the shadows than the R5 so hopefully this is better the R5II as well. Some of this I think was due to the Cinema line's OS/Code.
4. Cinema Raw Codecs. I like these a lot better than I did the Canon Raw and Raw LT in the R5
5. I think the R5C had better highlight rolloff than the the R5 again probably due to algorithms in the cinema os. So I hope this comes over in some way to the R5II.
6. Obviously IBIS will be in the R5II so my question is will you be able to lock off IBIS in some way to make rougher filming scenarios more viable than the R5. R5C of course did not have IBIS.
7. Anamorphic Desqueeze Options in Camera.

Also, 12BIT Raw Output would be nice.

Hopefully some this info will come.
 
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What about the internal ND filter patent for "an R5 series camera" though? Will this patent also be implemented in the R5 Mark II or will we "only" see the active cooling grip. And would that mean that certain video features like for example 8K60p or 4KHQ (oversampled full sensor readout 4K) with 60 or 120fps will only be available with the active cooling grip attached or will this grip only give us MORE recording time in these modes (8K60p, 4KHQ120p)?

And I'd love to know if the R5 Mark II will feature BUILT-IN GPS
Thank you very much in advance!

it's really hard to say - alot of Canon's designs come down to size and weight.

You wouldn't believe the level of agonizing over both that Canon does in the patent applications. I would imagine that whatever cooling solution they did would add some weight and size to the body - so it may be difficult to get an ND in there.
 
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Do you know if the R5 Mark II will have a higher dynamic range than that of the R5 (14.6 EV) in stills?
And will there be an option to shoot 16-bit RAW with the R5 Mark II?
even after the announcement, we won't know the DR until photonstophotos gets the images and does his math.

So we don't know - we can assume that if canon is advancing the sensor technology that it's bound to be better - but it was already basically class-leading.

Canon stomped to death the idea they were failing at the DR race and now you never see a certain group of users from another camera system mention it anymore.
 
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it's really hard to say - alot of Canon's designs come down to size and weight.

You wouldn't believe the level of agonizing over both that Canon does in the patent applications. I would imagine that whatever cooling solution they did would add some weight and size to the body - so it may be difficult to get an ND in there.
Makes sense. I do wonder if that means that BUILT-IN GPS will also NOT be implemented as this would also take up some space.

Or do you think that built-in GPS will be featured? Do you still stand by this post from about a month ago?
 
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I'm stoked on the grip! It's always nice to see some of the patent discoveries turn into real products.
I fear that this active cooling grip is an indication that certain video features like for example 8K60p or 4KHQ (oversampled full sensor readout 4K) with 60fps or 120fps (maybe we'll even get 4K180p?!) will only be available with the "active cooling grip" attached. Or will this grip only give us MORE recording time in these modes (8K60p, 4KHQ120p, 4K180p)?

What do you think?
 
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This is very exciting. Especially the cooling solutions!!!

There are a some video centric things from R5C I would love to see in the R5

1. Shutter Angle options
2. Tooling. False Colors. Advanced Wave Forms, HDMI options for these
3. The R5c has a bit better dynamic range and better noise patterns in the shadows than the R5 so hopefully this is better the R5II as well. Some of this I think was due to the Cinema line's OS/Code.
4. Cinema Raw Codecs. I like these a lot better than I did the Canon Raw and Raw LT in the R5
5. I think the R5C had better highlight rolloff than the the R5 again probably due to algorithms in the cinema os. So I hope this comes over in some way to the R5II.
6. Obviously IBIS will be in the R5II so my question is will you be able to lock off IBIS in some way to make rougher filming scenarios more viable than the R5. R5C of course did not have IBIS.
7. Anamorphic Desqueeze Options in Camera.

Also, 12BIT Raw Output would be nice.

Hopefully some this info will come.
how did you like the dual OS on the R5C?
 
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I fear that this active cooling grip is an indication that certain video features like for example 8K60p or 4KHQ (oversampled full sensor readout 4K) with 60fps or 120fps (maybe there will even be 4K180p?!) will only be available with the active cooling grip attached. Or will this grip only give us MORE recording time in these modes (8K60p, 4KHQ120p, 4K180p)?

What do you think?

I have absolutely no idea. that level of details we rarely get, and if I start guessing, I'll 100% of the time, get it completely wrong.

I think it's a great idea because canon needs to get out of being conservative to what it can do with accessory grips.

I have an article coming out on that actually.
 
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