The Canon EOS R5 Mark II – We have now seen it

I have absolutely no idea. that level of details we rarely get, and if I start guessing, I'll 100% of the time, get it completely wrong.

I think it's a great idea because canon needs to get out of being conservative to what it can do with accessory grips.

I have an article coming out on that actually.
Looking forward to that article!

Did you get any details about recording modes? 8K60p like in the Nikon Z8? More than 120fps in 4K (4K180p with a crop)?

And most importantly (to me at least) whether or not 4KHQ will still be limited to 30fps or if oversampled (full sensor readout) 60fps or 120fps will now also be possible (4KHQ60p).
 
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With the cooling, the noise at high ISO would be better, I guess the astro crowd will also get inline to buy this camera!
With what lenses though? The Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM is optically superb while being impressively compact and light. I will get the R5 II but I'll also have to carry around a Sony body SOLELY FOR THIS Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM lens.
There was once a rumor about a Canon RF 14mm f/1.4 but we haven't heard anything about it ever since. WHY CANON?! Also, while I love Canon bodies the RF 15-35 f/2.8 is just so heavy and big compared to the optically similarly great but way more compact Sony 16-35 GM II.

I'd love to see an updated more compact RF 15-35 f/2.8 and most importantly a competitor to the magnificent Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM!
 
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With what lenses though? The Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM is optically superb while being impressively compact and light. I will get the R5 II but I'll also have to carry around a Sony body SOLELY FOR THIS Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM lens.
There was once a rumor about a Canon RF 14mm f/1.4 but we haven't heard anything about it ever since. WHY CANON?! Also, while I love Canon bodies the RF 15-35 f/2.8 is just so heavy and big compared to the optically similarly great but way more compact Sony 16-35 GM II.

I'd love to see an updated more compact RF 15-35 f/2.8 and most importantly a competitor to the magnificent Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM!
 
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With what lenses though? The Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM is optically superb while being impressively compact and light. I will get the R5 II but I'll also have to carry around a Sony body SOLELY FOR THIS Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM lens. There was once a rumor about a Canon RF 14mm f/1.4 but we haven't heard anything about it ever since. WHY CANON?! Also, while I love Canon bodies the RF 15-35 f/2.8 is just so heavy and big compared to the optically similarly great Sony 16-35 GM II. I'd love to see an updated more compact RF 15-35 f/2.8 and most importantly a competitor to the magnificent Sony 14mm f/1.8 GM!

Toss on a 14mm F2.8 manual focus and have fun with it. The Sony 14mm F1.8 is okay but its coma is not as good as a $400 samyang.

to answer your 14/1.4 while it may come out, it's very difficult to get perfect coma in the corners with a very fast lens, and have it be a reasonable price.

the difference you'll get you can compensate easily for because you have far better quality images if you have an actively cooled system - especially a mirrorless camera which has the sensor running all the time anyways.
 
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Well I'd sure hope Canon can one up what will be a 3.5 year old camera when the R5II finally ships. But what will happen in Nov 2024 when the A1II comes out? 50MP @ 60FPS with flawless pre-capture implementation and who knows what other goodies Sony will have cooked up by then?
The R5II will have to sell at a significant discount to the A1II if it is going to only match the A1 in most of the fundamental features.
R5ii is not a flagship, it will be released for around 4000 USD, that's around 60% of the price that the a1 still goes for today. R5ii competition from Sony is supposed to be the a7rv/future a7rvi.
 
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Toss on a 14mm F2.8 manual focus and have fun with it. The Sony 14mm F1.8 is okay but its coma is not as good as a $400 samyang.

to answer your 14/1.4 while it may come out, it's very difficult to get perfect coma in the corners with a very fast lens, and have it be a reasonable price.

the difference you'll get you can compensate easily for because you have far better quality images if you have an actively cooled system - especially a mirrorless camera which has the sensor running all the time anyways.
f/2.8 vs. f/1.8 is a huge difference though and I really like how compact and light this f/1.8 lens is!
Not only this lens.

The RF 14-35mm f4.0 is about the same size and weight as the Sony 16-35 f/2.8 GM so I went with the RF 14-35 f/4 instead of the 15-35 f/2.8 because of the massive size and weight of the 15-35 loosing out on f/2.8

There was some chatter about a new wide RF zoom coming out in 2024 or early 2025. Will this be a successor to the RF 15-35 f/2.8? Will we perhaps also see an updated RF 24-70 f/2.8 Z or an updated RF 24-105 f/4?

Sorry for all those questions but an updated RF lens roadmap with likely releases up until the end of 2025 would be highly appreciated! Maybe it'll shake the rumor tree and give us something new down the line :D
 
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Sorry for all those questions but an updated RF lens roadmap with likely releases up until the end of 2025 would be highly appreciated!
AFAIK, Canon has never released a lens roadmap (though one leaked from an internal presentation several years ago). We're 40% of the way through the year with no lenses launched, and Canon did indicate they plan to keep to the 7-8 RF lenses per year pace. So we should see some announcements soon, I hope.
 
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it's really hard to say - alot of Canon's designs come down to size and weight.
I would imagine that whatever cooling solution they did would add some weight and size to the body - so it may be difficult to get an ND in there.
So this means that BUILT-IN GPS will also NOT be implemented as this would also take up too much space??

Was this post on X (Twitter) based on something solid you heard from a source or only an educated guess? Do you still believe that the R5 Mark II will feature built-in GPS?
 
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That may be the case, unfortunatly. Although since Canon apperently plans to split their high-end segment into a low-res high-speed camera (R1) and leave the high-res low(er)-speed segment to the R5II, I would find it very odd, if the would dig out the cripple hammer so quickly. Moreover, even then it would make more sense, so use the Eye Control AF as a separator since it is the more compex feature.



I would assume, that this falls under the "All of the previously reported core specifications are pretty much correct."
Regarding pre-capture I would be surprised if they would not include it since many of the new "smaller" camera models have it. However, (sadly) I would also be surprised if canon did indeed improve the implementation.
 
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f/2.8 vs. f/1.8 is a huge difference though and I really like how compact and light this f/1.8 lens is!

it's not if the sensor is actively cooled. the difference you get in noise and the ability to move the ISO higher with less noise will counter the 1EV difference you'll get in the lens performance.

there is a reason why every astro camera is actively cooled.

here's an d810 that went through cooling mods and the difference. I'm not saying we'll see these kind of differences, but the difference between a sensor that can stay cool is far far far more of an advantage than you think it is for astrophotography / astrolandscape.

while you won't be doing 450 second exposures, on a mirrorless time is cumulative when you have it on and the EVF / LCD is showing a live display. so 20 minutes into your shooting on a non cooled sensor, you'll have data such as shown below.
 

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I've only seen one, and rumors of more (which seem likely to become true). But the one that exists is an excellent lens, and I have no problem ignoring the video-oriented features.
Have it, love it, waiting for the "future camera" that will allow me to actually use the aperture ring in stills photography mode. Not sure why this was not a firmware update for some existing cameras though.
 
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how did you like the dual OS on the R5C?
Hmmm, that is a good question. I think for me it was fine because I am usually either using it for video or stills , I rarely switch on the fly. But I could definitely see that this would be an issue for many use cases.

It would be nice if the menus were similar look and feel though. I highly customized the buttons in both modes to pretty much avoid the menus whenever possible. :)

The difference is worth it for the image and tooling improvements if for some reason that is a requirement.
 
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They already crippled the R1 (if the rumors are true) by making it only a 24mp camera. Why such a concentration on speed? The 1D3 was only around 14 fps and it seemed to be fine with sports photographers. Spraying and praying seems ridiculous. I'm shooting airshow on occasion and I don't need that much speed. I'd rather have 16 bit, 15 stops or more of dynamic range, and more resolution. But thats me.
 
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Have it, love it, waiting for the "future camera" that will allow me to actually use the aperture ring in stills photography mode. Not sure why this was not a firmware update for some existing cameras though.
Agreed that it could have been done with firmware (though at least Canon was upfront about saying pre-2024 cameras would not support it and IIRC, they have not said it it would ever be usable for stills).

Still, I'm not sure what use I'd have for continuously variable (click-less) aperture changes with stills photography. I expect it would/should just round the value to the nearest 1/3-stop (or 1/2, depending on settings) value...and in that case, I'm already used changing the aperture with the main dial on the camera.
 
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It is disconcerting to hear that there is unlikely to be an R5C. The thing that makes the R5C useful to me is not necessarily the cooling, although that is required, but the cinema OS. I doubt Canon would release a general purpose camera like the R5II with the cinema OS, so I am guessing the R5C line is about to go the way of the 1DC line and be a one off.
Bring on the full frame RF mount cinema camera!

Canon could offer the same body with an upgraded firmware for a slightly higher price. They did this with the 5D Mark IV. If you wanted C-log it was $100 more.
 
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They already crippled the R1 (if the rumors are true) by making it only a 24mp camera. Why such a concentration on speed? The 1D3 was only around 14 fps and it seemed to be fine with sports photographers.
Why such a concentration on megapixels? Assuming you mean the 1D X III, that was only 20 MP (same as its predecessor and only 2 MP more than the 1D X), and it seemed to be fine with sports photographers.

And if you really meant the 1DIII as you wrote, that was only 10 MP and 10 fps...and also seemed to be fine with sports photographers.

Why is it that when an improvement is in a metric they don't personally care about, people say the camera is crippled? Grow up. :rolleyes:
 
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