The PowerShot V Series Will Become Canon's New Line of Compact Cameras
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So not only we are not receiving a retro full frame Sony A7C II or R competitor, we are not even getting a Canon M6 II APS-C successor, but only 4/3 camera? I am OK with that, if it means a restart in the compact camera segment, but will there ever be a higher level sensor compact / retro camera?
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Personally, I'm fine if we never see a retro camera from Canon. I wonder what sales of existing retro cameras are like, e.g. the Zf. I don't know, but I have no doubt that Canon does know.
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Wait - aren't you an owner of M6 II? I do regard it being a retro camera
By "retro", I do really mean the design like M6 II. Should I call it compact? Simply a model without a hump, not necessarily being all that "compact".
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Yes, I have an M6 and M6II. I take 'retro' to be something like the Nikon Df and Zf. There have been rumors of a forthcoming Canon MILC with an AE-1 design or something like that.Wait - aren't you an owner of M6 II? I do regard it being a retro camera
I might be interested in an M6II-sized RF-mount camera without an EVF hump and with an APS-C sensor, if only as a backup to the R8. But without lenses of the quality of several of the EF-M lenses, I would not want to replace my M kit with an RF-S kit.
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I like my M6 II, but I do wish it had an EFCS option. The shutter doesn't play well with some of the lenses. Not having some of the video features of the 90D makes sense, given the smaller battery, but leaving out EFCS seems strange. I am liking the R8 better all the time.
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My wish list is for a new compact camera like my now 15-year-old S95, something with a 24-105 equivalent zoom, good sensor shooting raw, and fit in a jeans pocket. I think the S95 shot better pics than my old G9, and rivaled the original M (at least with the awful kit zooms they had). Also, I saw mentions in the chain about Canon flashes - do they make anything affordable compatible with the R6 and R10, with their old style hot shoe? I have an original 430EX, but my backup 220EX was stolen (along with my M and all its lenses).
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The EL-100 has the old shoe and is similar in power to the 270EX II, but it was discontinued last year. You can still find them new.
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The original G1X and later G1Xii has a sensor very similar in size to micro 4/3, and the latter showed that Canon could squeeze quite a fast and stable length zoom into a very compact camera.
As a long term user of both original G1X and G1Xiii I’ve often thought that Canon’s decision to use a full up APS-c sized sensor restricted what they could do with the zoom lens in such a small body. For many people the lens appeared to be a limiting factor, and so I can see the sense in Canon moving forward with a very slightly smaller sensor but “better” lens.
As a long term user of both original G1X and G1Xiii I’ve often thought that Canon’s decision to use a full up APS-c sized sensor restricted what they could do with the zoom lens in such a small body. For many people the lens appeared to be a limiting factor, and so I can see the sense in Canon moving forward with a very slightly smaller sensor but “better” lens.
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I agree. The G1X Mk II sensor being larger than the other PowerShots gives more Dynamic Range, but also presents some design challenges for the non-interchangeable collapsing lens:
- Does not collapse completely into the body
- Zoom range of 24-120mm equivalent is nice, but at the expense of speed on the long end
- Minimum focusing distance in Macro Mode is constrained relative to other PowerShots – 40cm at the long end
- Bokeh is “busy”
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We got some more information on the sensor size.
www.canonrumors.com/more-details-about-the-canon-powershot-v1-sensor/
www.canonrumors.com/more-details-about-the-canon-powershot-v1-sensor/
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You'll need some ibuprofen for this... 1" does not refer directly to the sensor diagonal, because 1" is 25.4 mm not 16mm. The 'inch' measurement used in compact sensor size specifications actually refers to the outside diameter of a comparable video camera tube, the diagonal for the photosensitive area of which is about 2/3 the overall tube diameter, give or take. Then, manufacturers take liberties with the classification as a "1 inch-type" sensor for example ranging from 15.9mm to 16.8mm diagonals.
I'd guess that a 1.4"-type sensor will have a diagonal of a bit over 22mm, probably 22.2-22.4mm. 1.4" falls in between the 21.6mm diagonal of the m4/3 sensor (aka 4/3" = 1.33") and the 23.4mm diagonal of the 1.5" sensor in the PowerShot G1 X II.
I think I need some ibuprofen now, too.
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Yeah, though the naming has now shifted to drop the "inch" terminology. For instance, all the Sony sensor flyers just specify sensors as "Type 1/2.3" or Type 1/1.8" or "Type 2.7" etc.
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Next stop, whoozleblat- and fleegltoon-type sensors. Not much difference between meaningless numbers and nonsense syllables.
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I know; my eyes glazed over when reading the historical POV, and I decided it was crazy.
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I really didn't think of that to be honest.
it could be, but canon's (and others) compacts seem to sit around the 4:3 or 3:2 aspect ratio.
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