A Canon DSLR First Coming to EOS 5D Mark IV [CR2]

Electronic view finder, hybrid viewfinder, is the day I keep my old model, I hate those things in a camera, you guys who like it and wish for it that's fair do, but not for me, I love my DSLR just as it is, plus some tweaks, better res, DR, speed, user interface tweaks, feature such as build in radio trigger I would like, I want to see the world through the lens, as a matter of a fact I love to view the world through that buitiful crafted Canon L glass, the day I have no choice and am forced to use EVFs I will stick with old tech.
 
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I'd like to see something that allows getting rid of AF issues. Whether a shifting sensor to compensate for AF inaccuracies or automated AFMA or whatever... But 100% tack sharp shots at F/1.4 ALL THE TIME at least on (almost) static subject would be a dream :)

And please Canon, make it work with third-party lenses too!
 
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From https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-powershot-g7-x-mark-ii-review?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=generic&ref_=pe_1822230_200900040_dpr_nl_212_4
The G7 X II offers what Canon calls 'Dual Sensing IS', which uses data from the image sensor (in addition to gyro-scoping sensors) to reduce blur caused by camera shake. The company claims that this system is more effective than on the G7 X, with the ability to reduce shake by four stops. There's also a new panning IS mode that will adjust the shutter speed to ensure that your subject is 'frozen.'

In the image quality department, the Digic 7 processor brings improved sharpening and high ISO noise reduction algorithms. We'll see the results of that later in the review.

Hmm, I revise my guess after reading the review. It makes sense, just place it in with the anti-flicker logic. Wait until your at the end of a periodic movement (shake) for the exposure.
 
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arthurbikemad said:
Electronic view finder, hybrid viewfinder, is the day I keep my old model, I hate those things in a camera, you guys who like it and wish for it that's fair do, but not for me, I love my DSLR just as it is, plus some tweaks, better res, DR, speed, user interface tweaks, feature such as build in radio trigger I would like, I want to see the world through the lens, as a matter of a fact I love to view the world through that buitiful crafted Canon L glass, the day I have no choice and am forced to use EVFs I will stick with old tech.

What if the EVF is so good you can't tell the difference?
 
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There have been some very useful suggestions in the thread.
I had a Canon eyeball focussing camera. In principle, it was nice - in practice, it was very hit an miss for someone with glasses.

I would like the EVF overlay to give you the details you get in many mirrorless cameras.
One possible innovation is multiple shots moving the sensor to increase the effective number of pixels (like the Olympus OM E5 Mark 2).
Another innovation and a biggie would be in-camera stabilization.
I wouldn't want voice control - not a great idea in a church....
A possible change could be a user-selectable resolution mode - offer maximum pixels or offer fewer pixels and use pixel binning techniques to group pixels to increase the signal to noise ratio.

Finally, I like the comment on the lug. Has anyone else had a Canon sharp lug eat through the strap and see their camera drop to the floor?
 
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tpatana said:
arthurbikemad said:
Electronic view finder, hybrid viewfinder, is the day I keep my old model, I hate those things in a camera, you guys who like it and wish for it that's fair do, but not for me, I love my DSLR just as it is, plus some tweaks, better res, DR, speed, user interface tweaks, feature such as build in radio trigger I would like, I want to see the world through the lens, as a matter of a fact I love to view the world through that buitiful crafted Canon L glass, the day I have no choice and am forced to use EVFs I will stick with old tech.

What if the EVF is so good you can't tell the difference?

Then I'd be sold I guess, do you think they will get that good? I am sure in time that will be the case, I'd be a convert if so after all that would be that.
 
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arthurbikemad said:
tpatana said:
arthurbikemad said:
Electronic view finder, hybrid viewfinder, is the day I keep my old model, I hate those things in a camera, you guys who like it and wish for it that's fair do, but not for me, I love my DSLR just as it is, plus some tweaks, better res, DR, speed, user interface tweaks, feature such as build in radio trigger I would like, I want to see the world through the lens, as a matter of a fact I love to view the world through that buitiful crafted Canon L glass, the day I have no choice and am forced to use EVFs I will stick with old tech.

What if the EVF is so good you can't tell the difference?

Then I'd be sold I guess, do you think they will get that good? I am sure in time that will be the case, I'd be a convert if so after all that would be that.

Yes, I'm 100% sure they will get that good. But my crystal ball doesn't give me a date. She's not my type anyway.

I think somewhere 4-10 years down the road, they will be _good enough_ on resolution/response that all the other improvements trump OVF and they'll replace 99% of the market. I'd bet 1DX3 is still OVF but 1DX4 some sort of EVF or hybrid at least. They will start trying on lower end cameras, like 95D
 
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arthurbikemad said:
tpatana said:
arthurbikemad said:
Electronic view finder, hybrid viewfinder, is the day I keep my old model, I hate those things in a camera, you guys who like it and wish for it that's fair do, but not for me, I love my DSLR just as it is, plus some tweaks, better res, DR, speed, user interface tweaks, feature such as build in radio trigger I would like, I want to see the world through the lens, as a matter of a fact I love to view the world through that buitiful crafted Canon L glass, the day I have no choice and am forced to use EVFs I will stick with old tech.

What if the EVF is so good you can't tell the difference?

Then I'd be sold I guess, do you think they will get that good? I am sure in time that will be the case, I'd be a convert if so after all that would be that.

They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder, can't see wildlife photogs waiting in a hide for 3 days to capture 5 seconds of footage of some rare animal being happy they can't look though the viewfinder without using juice.

There will always be a lag, to make it work well it will will have to balance frame rate with sensitivity, fast and low light will be the challenge.

Size and cost will shrink, but moores law won't solve the two big issues.

If you're happy with both of those then fine.. I'm not.
 
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rfdesigner said:
They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder, can't see wildlife photogs waiting in a hide for 3 days to capture 5 seconds of footage of some rare animal being happy they can't look though the viewfinder without using juice.

There will always be a lag, to make it work well it will will have to balance frame rate with sensitivity, fast and low light will be the challenge.

Size and cost will shrink, but moores law won't solve the two big issues.

If you're happy with both of those then fine.. I'm not.

Think outside the box. Lag can be fixed for sure. 1ms is long time for good electronics, so it just needs to be fast enough. For battery, if I have the camera powered on for 3 days, it'll drain the battery regardless of the VF. One day they'll be good enough to take the market.
 
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rfdesigner said:
They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder, can't see wildlife photogs waiting in a hide for 3 days to capture 5 seconds of footage of some rare animal being happy they can't look though the viewfinder without using juice.

1) Not everyone's a wildlife shooter, especially in the 5D camp.

2) A hybrid OVF/EVF solves your juice problem. You could just turn it off if you wanted to save juice.

That said, I don't think that's what this new innovation is. EVFs will eventually come to SLRs, but I'd be stunned if (a) Canon pulled that off now and (b) Canon messed around with the bread and butter 5D line first -- you'd expect they'd try this in a one-off side project of a camera and not in such a high profile rig.

- A
 
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ahsanford said:
rfdesigner said:
They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder, can't see wildlife photogs waiting in a hide for 3 days to capture 5 seconds of footage of some rare animal being happy they can't look though the viewfinder without using juice.

1) Not everyone's a wildlife shooter, especially in the 5D camp.

2) A hybrid OVF/EVF solves your juice problem. You could just turn it off if you wanted to save juice.

That said, I don't think that's what this new innovation is. EVFs will eventually come to SLRs, but I'd be stunned if (a) Canon pulled that off now and (b) Canon messed around with the bread and butter 5D line first -- you'd expect they'd try this in a one-off side project of a camera and not in such a high profile rig.

- A

A hybrid would be fine.

In my case I use the camera powered down with manual focus an awful lot, touching the shutter button to bring it to life if events look promising.
 
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rfdesigner said:
They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder...

That's true for many current cameras. Take the battery out of a camera with a transmissive LCD (7D/II, 5DIII/s, 1D X/II, etc.), the VF gets very dark. It's certainly not drain on the order of an EVF, but it does draw power, and that usage is constant even with the camera powered off.
 
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