A Canon DSLR First Coming to EOS 5D Mark IV [CR2]

[Azathoth]

Pokemon Go built in

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[neuroanatomist]

Personally, I would like to see a square sensor.

So you'd prefer a 1.18x crop sensor to a FF sensor? Or perhaps a much more expensive camera? Those, among other reasons (incompatibility with a few lenses and many lens hoods, etc.) means that idea is pretty much a non-starter.

 

[KeithBreazeal]

How about being able to zoom into a specific spot in live view and white balance- like a face backlit or in the shade.

 

[IglooEater]

They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder...

That's true for many current cameras. Take the battery out of a camera with a transmissive LCD (7D/II, 5DIII/s, 1D X/II, etc.), the VF gets very dark. It's certainly not drain on the order of an EVF, but it does draw power, and that usage is constant even with the camera powered off.

I've heard of this before, have any more information on why this is and how it works? I'm just curious, makes no difference to me.

 

[lettherebelight]

Ridiculous these rumors but ... they should revive eye-controlled focus point selection and pair it with some form of DOF indication a la magic lantern etc

So much for today's advanced tea-leaf reading.

<p>The teasing of features and information has started ahead of the August announcement of the EOS 5D Mark IV from Canon.</p>
<p>We’re told that the new camera will have a DSLR first from Canon, but the source was unsure if any other manufacturer has or will have the same feature in one of their cameras. While we’re told that the feature “isn’t major”, it is something “a lot of shooters will be happy to have”.</p>
<p>We expect a lot more information over the next few weeks, and we’re working hard daily trying to get some new bits of information.</p>
<p>What sort of “DSLR first” feature do you want to see in a Canon DSLR?</p>
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[IglooEater]

Did anyone read this?

"We’re told that the new camera will have a DSLR first from Canon, but the source was unsure if any other manufacturer has or will have the same feature in one of their cameras. While we’re told that the feature “isn’t major”, it is something “a lot of shooters will be happy to have”."

The feature isn't major, apparently. No there isn't going to be an EVF. I really don't see Canon implementing something like that in a trusty workhorse for so many. In my opinion that would be suited to another break off model, or possibly if any other the 6d line.

Also the fact that the source doesn't seem to even know what kind of feature this is, or even whether or not the competition has it would seem to point to a very small feature. I think we all expect the 5D IV to have some feature not already found on a Canon DSLR.

 

[rrcphoto]

hmmm.

- no more need of AFMA. the system reads the DPAF sensor prior to capture and adjusts focus as it happens.

- hybrid EVF and OVF viewfinder. the choice of either an EVF / liveview experience .. OR .. OVF .. OR .. OVF with EVF overlays.

- the intelligent hotshoe found on the Gx series and EOS-M series bodies, so that you can use the EVF-DC1 as an accessory for liveview EVF shooting.

I could see it easily being the last one .. it's the easiest implementation.

oh what the hell..

32MP DSLR camera with 8K 30fps shooting.

go big or go home

 

[neuroanatomist]

They will always take power, so you will always have to drain the battery to use the viewfinder...

That's true for many current cameras. Take the battery out of a camera with a transmissive LCD (7D/II, 5DIII/s, 1D X/II, etc.), the VF gets very dark. It's certainly not drain on the order of an EVF, but it does draw power, and that usage is constant even with the camera powered off.

I've heard of this before, have any more information on why this is and how it works? I'm just curious, makes no difference to me.

There are different types of transmissive LCDs, but they share the common features of a liquid crystal that can alter its internal organization in response to an applied electrical field, sandwiched between two polarizers. The type used in the VF of Canon (and Nikon) dSLRs has the polarizers oriented at 90°, so power is required to hold the liquid crystal in the 'twisted' state that allows light to be rotated so it passes through the second polarizer.

 

[slclick]

While I loved my EOS 3, it was not for eye control, it never worked that well for me. I liked the body because it was robust, dependable and professional level gear at a fraction of the flagship. I don't have a pony in this wishlist race since I won't be upgrading my 5D3 but that's not a feature I'd pick.

 

[tomservo51]

Face tracking like Sony's. Focus peaking. Built in wireless transmitter for external flash.

 

[Orangutan]

Personally, I would like to see a square sensor.

So you'd prefer a 1.18x crop sensor to a FF sensor? Or perhaps a much more expensive camera? Those, among other reasons (incompatibility with a few lenses and many lens hoods, etc.) means that idea is pretty much a non-starter.

Probably not a non-starter, but wouldn't be a reasonable feature to develop at this time due to sensor manufacturing costs. I've said before I'd love a square sensor that encompasses the entire (usable) image circle so you can choose your aspect ratio in post. It would be expensive. It would be a premium or niche model. Unlike some other folk here I don't think the world always shares my feature priorities. Whether I could afford it is something I won't have to think about for a long time.

 

[Aaron D]

I bet it has a telephone built in.

 

[TheJock]

Well personally speaking, I would like to see the new body double the FL of all my lenses with the flick of a switch, with zero loss of IQ of course ;D

 

[bljoe]

A lot of the things I keep reading seem to easily be dismissed by just re-reading the original post.

The main points I notice are :

1. "will have a DSLR first from Canon" Reading this really makes me tune in on the part that says " DSLR " which makes me believe it's something that may exist on their cinema cameras - pointing at a video feature.

2. "unsure if any other manufacturer has or will have the same feature" First, if this is a semi-reliable source, good enough to get a CR2 rating, then I'd have to say they somewhat know cameras, and current technology. This makes me believe that the person making this statement is most likely aware of all of the main features than Nikon, and Sony cameras have to offer - especially the features that are bragged about, so it should not be any of those.

For example : 5 axis stabilization, Log gammas, timecode, zebras, built in RT etc etc...

So knowing this, what else can we assume it could be ??????

Food for thought !

 

[arthurbikemad]

And highlights that Canon advertising needs improving as many don't know the features they want are already supported on current models, time laps, crop mode etc all on 5DSR and so on.

 

[stefsan]

While I loved my EOS 3, it was not for eye control, it never worked that well for me. I liked the body because it was robust, dependable and professional level gear at a fraction of the flagship. I don't have a pony in this wishlist race since I won't be upgrading my 5D3 but that's not a feature I'd pick.

Question to all the eye control users of old: did it work if you wore glasses?

 

[wockawocka]

It would be nice to have an integrate EVF and OVF, switchable on the fly through the same eye piece so that to use live view you never need to leave the viewfinder.

 

[suburbia]

While I loved my EOS 3, it was not for eye control, it never worked that well for me. I liked the body because it was robust, dependable and professional level gear at a fraction of the flagship. I don't have a pony in this wishlist race since I won't be upgrading my 5D3 but that's not a feature I'd pick.

Question to all the eye control users of old: did it work if you wore glasses?

Yes you were meant to calibrate it at first and also every now and then. Some people did have problems with it but for me it worked flawlessly. Much quicker than moving focus points with a cursor or focus and recompose.

From the manual:

You calibrate the camera by looking at a blinking focusing point in the viewfinder and then pressing the shutter button. Your do this for four focusing point while holding the camera horizontally and again while hold the camera vertically. Therefore you have to follow the calibration procedure eight times
There are three calibration channels (CAL 1, 2, 3) which can store different calibration data.

For example you can store calibration data in channel 1 for your naked eye and channel 2 for when you wear glasses or contact lenses. Channel 3 can be used to store calibration data for another user.

 

[jebrady03]

If ECF makes a comeback (and works well), I'll preorder this damn thing. And I was planning to wait a solid 6-12 months to buy it.

ECF
DPAF (coupled with a touchscreen because otherwise it's not nearly as useful)
Off sensor ADC
Anti Flicker
Metering tied to AF point

yes please!

I'll add a few...
Automated AFMA, especially if it works for more than one AF point
Hybrid OVF/EVF with the option to completely turn either one off
And I'm dreaming here but..... a round imaging sensor which utilizes the entire imaging circle of the lens. Yes, I'd happily buy all new lens hoods for this, and pay a premium for the camera. To be able to crop to my desired aspect ratio without sacrificing a substantial portion of the intended original 3:2 field of view would be HUGE! 3:2, for me at least, isn't really ideal for portraits, especially when the camera is vertically oriented. For something like this to be usable though, Canon will need to employ all of the latest sensor advances, including those they've never used before, due to heavy vignetting.
And for crap's sake, can we get a round viewfinder port... PLEASE?!?!

 

[xps]

Video without 30min Limitation?
Automatic or wireless publication opportunity to YouTube e.g.?
Charging over USB 3.1

Or even >14 stops of DR (that has NO Canon model)? :