Canon Adds EOS R50 and EOS R8 to the Growing EOS R Mirrorless Camera System

BH says it does. In video.
Canon says it doesn’t.

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The online reviews say it doesn’t, e.g., PetaPixel, “The lack of image stabilization also means video shooters must carefully plan their shoots around either image-stabilized lenses or situations in which the camera can be locked down on a tripod or gimbal.”

Personally, I’d believe Canon. You can believe the spec list on a vendor website if you want.
 
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BH says it does. In video.
Yes, it supposedly has "sensor-shift" stabilisation in video only. As opposed to digital stabilisation.

But according to dpreview, there is no IBIS for stills, which seems odd, only OIS.

This suggests to me that there is an IBIS unit in the R8, but that is is disabled in stills mode, presumably for product segmentation reasons.

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I do not know the difference between sensor shift and digital stabilization. For me, as long as I get stabilization when I walk around with it, I am fine. :) If possible, could you tell me the difference between the two more than what the terms imply?
 
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Canon says it doesn’t.

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The online reviews say it doesn’t, e.g., PetaPixel, “The lack of image stabilization also means video shooters must carefully plan their shoots around either image-stabilized lenses or situations in which the camera can be locked down on a tripod or gimbal.”

Personally, I’d believe Canon. You can believe the spec list on a vendor website if you want.
I will obviously believe Canon more than BH. Let me check further...
 
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I do not know the difference between sensor shift and digital stabilization. For me, as long as I get stabilization when I walk around with it, I am fine. :) If possible, could you tell me the difference between the two more than what the terms imply?
Sensor-shift IBIS is achieved by physically moving the sensor to compensate for camera movement. Thus the full area of the sensor is used.

My limited understanding of digital stabilisation (not very well explained) is that it is done by comparing consecutive frames, and compensating for camera movement by cropping a slightly different section of the frame on subsequent frames. Thus with digital stabilisation the image is always slightly cropped. It clearly can't be used for stills, as it needs a series of consecutive shots. It's possible that B&H have got their facts wrong, and the R8 *only* has digital stabilisation.

I think some systems use a combination of sensor-shift *and* digital stabilisation in video mode.

Anyone with greater knowledge, feel welcome to correct me!
 
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R50 + adaptor + 11-18mm = 375 + 110 + 240 = 725 gm
R8 + RF 24-50 = 460 + 210 = 670
So, I get a full-frame camera with IBIS and it weighs less than a crop setup. So the R8 seems like a better deal. Unless I am missing something.

If you are looking for a light configuration, why not consider:
R50 + RF 16mm = 375+ 165 = 540 gm
or
R8 + RF 16mm = 460 +165 = 625 gm?

This way you have a lightweight set-up with an f2.8 full frame lens that can be used on full frame or crop.
 
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Yes, it supposedly has "sensor-shift" stabilisation in video only. As opposed to digital stabilisation.

But according to dpreview, there is no IBIS for stills, which seems odd, only OIS.

This suggests to me that there is an IBIS unit in the R8, but that is is disabled in stills mode, presumably for product segmentation reasons.

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I am sure that it says that but I am also sure it is wrong.
Video-only sensor shift is not a thing.
 
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If you are looking for a light configuration, why not consider:
R50 + RF 16mm = 375+ 165 = 540 gm
or
R8 + RF 16mm = 460 +165 = 625 gm?

This way you have a lightweight set-up with an f2.8 full frame lens that can be used on full frame or crop.
R50 + RF 16 is a completely different field of view than R8 + RF 16.
I would go with R8 + RF 15-30 until an RF-S 11-22 comes out or adapt an EF 10-18 to the R50.
 
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That means no sensor-shift IS. Movie Digital IS uses a slightly cropped frame that ‘moves’ to compensate for camera motion.
But unlike sensor-shift, the digital IS will still show the original motion blur, which can point in a weird direction, like up when you’re panning the camera horizontally.

Digital IS also gets confused if the subject moves while the camera is held still, for example doing a close-up of a panting dog, the digital IS will stabilize the dog by moving the background in sync with the panting.
 
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Digital stabilization crops into the image to keep it steady.
I wish we could get what blackmagic and sony are doing: include gyro and accelerometer data in the video file so you can stabilize it in post using that telemetry.
The software to do that in post is already out there, making the firmware include it is intern-level trivial.
 
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R50 + RF 16 is a completely different field of view than R8 + RF 16.
I would go with R8 + RF 15-30 until an RF-S 11-22 comes out or adapt an EF 10-18 to the R50.
Obviously, it depends on the intended use and how much Sanj wants to keep the weight down. The 16mm yields ~25mm FOV on m50. About the same as the 24-50 at the wide end Sanj was considering on the R8. The EF-m 11-22 is heavier at 220gm, the RF is unlikely to be lighter when/if it shows up. The RF 15-30 is 390gm!
 
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