Canon EOS 6D Mark II Has Begun Shipping

Don Haines said:
jayt567 said:
Anyway, not sure what you meant by the identity comment but if you are referring to the camera under my user name, never used a power shot camera and haven't found a way to change that. Enjoy all your gear!

The camera under your name is based on how many times that you have posted. With more posts, it changes to a more expensive camera, and then to expensive lenses. The only question I have with it is how long before Neuro gets "hubble space telescope" under his name.......

That's interesting. The last message of mine I saw, it had the G7X, a camera I really do have in the Mark II incarnation, so I wouldn't have guessed it as a forum status thing.
 
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Channone said:
For those who do Astrophotography the tilty-flippy screen should be a big win. No more heating up of the sensor with Live View.

Some time back I bought the a motorized tracker for star shots and was quite frustrated with being out in the winter cold on my knees looking up. So, I kind of abandoned that activity but now I think the new 6D2 will be helpful.

Jack
 
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Everyone's bashing the new 6D while I happily wait for the original release to come down in price.

I was a previous owner of that model back in 2014 (sold due to financial reasons) and can

honestly say it remains a superb product. Beautiful FF aesthetic for a more or less decent price is a medium sized-body.

Yeah yeah it has practically one really good centered AF point, so what?

For serious AF work I use my 7D mark II and rip 10fps.

Video? Nah. Why would I buy a newer body with a tilt screen when I doesn't have a headphone jack?

Again, for that I'm using my 7D mark II which has mic and headphone jacks and also DPAF.

Cheers.
 
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jayt567 said:
RiceCanon said:
I was so excited to upgrade my 6D to the Mark ii until I saw the dynamic range tests. Canon included the other features I wanted to see but DR is a very important factor for me and the reality that 4 or 5 years later Canon takes a step backward with DR in the Mark ii is just inexcusable. 4 or 5 years on EVERY feature to a follow on model should be absolutely a lot better. This is a technology product! 4-5 years is an eternity in the tech world.
This is a company that acts like they have no competition out there. Really dumb! I'm not planning on buying this camera now. So disappointed in Canon.

In reality, if you hadn't read any reviews and purchased the camera you would have been happy as a clam with it.

You know him or what? He said DR is impoprtant to him. If he buy the 6D Mark2 coming from a 6D and the chart is telling the truth, then he will not see any improvement in the DR with his new camera. Even a clam can realize when things stay the same.

Btw: I had the 6D II on preorder until I saw this DR disaster. I am sorry, but I at least expected similar DR like the 5D IV, instead you get something slightly worse than the previous model. Not cool. And yes, I didn't care for 4K or even the autofocus spread. But getting an old tech sensor is not worth 2K$ to me.
 
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jayt567 said:
Channone said:
For those who do Astrophotography the tilty-flippy screen should be a big win. No more heating up of the sensor with Live View.

Don't you still need live view to see it on the tilty screen?

:-X

Now think again about what you just wrote...
Yes you still need LV, but the heat source (display) is tilted away from the camera, thus introducing significantly less heat into the camera body.

gn8
 
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EduPortas said:
Everyone's bashing the new 6D while I happily wait for the original release to come down in price.

I was a previous owner of that model back in 2014 (sold due to financial reasons) and can

honestly say it remains a superb product. Beautiful FF aesthetic for a more or less decent price is a medium sized-body.

Yeah yeah it has practically one really good centered AF point, so what?

For serious AF work I use my 7D mark II and rip 10fps.

Video? Nah. Why would I buy a newer body with a tilt screen when I doesn't have a headphone jack?

Again, for that I'm using my 7D mark II which has mic and headphone jacks and also DPAF.

Cheers.

Makes sense to me. You can see what I've accomplished with the 6D the last 4 years. On the other hand, I sold it only a couple weeks ago and will get the 6D2 when prices hopefully drop and that also makes sense to me. My wife will be very happy with this, trust me. In other words we all have our needs, desires and restrictions and end up doing what's best for #1. However, I know such commentary doesn't make for very exciting debating on CR. ;)

Jack
 
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Yasko said:
jayt567 said:
Channone said:
For those who do Astrophotography the tilty-flippy screen should be a big win. No more heating up of the sensor with Live View.

Don't you still need live view to see it on the tilty screen?

:-X

Now think again about what you just wrote...
Yes you still need LV, but the heat source (display) is tilted away from the camera, thus introducing significantly less heat into the camera body.

gn8

I thought the major source of sensor heat in LV was the sensor itself, constantly reading and writing frames.
 
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LonelyBoy said:
Yasko said:
jayt567 said:
Channone said:
For those who do Astrophotography the tilty-flippy screen should be a big win. No more heating up of the sensor with Live View.

Don't you still need live view to see it on the tilty screen?

:-X

Now think again about what you just wrote...
Yes you still need LV, but the heat source (display) is tilted away from the camera, thus introducing significantly less heat into the camera body.

gn8

I thought the major source of sensor heat in LV was the sensor itself, constantly reading and writing frames.

It is, but technical knowledge evidently isn't everyone's strong suit.
 
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Am I wrong? Didn't the initial stink about the DR of this camera peg it at around 9 and state it to be worse than the 6D? The Trusted Reviews review displays a curve with ISO 50 yielding DR = 12.2 and stating it exceeds the 6D.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-performance-image-quality-verdict

So what's happening here, or is it apples vs. oranges again?

Jack
 
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Wait, there was a moratorium on selling them? I picked mine up on Monday :-\

ANYWAY, I LOVE the new camera. I'm coming from a 60D, so the full frame, DPAF, AF, and Touch Screen are enough to put me in 6D MKII heaven. I haven't had much time with it at this point, but I'm excited! Sure, I'd love 4K and better HDR, but at the end of the day, it's good enough for what I'll be using it for.
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Am I wrong? Didn't the initial stink about the DR of this camera peg it at around 9 and state it to be worse than the 6D? The Trusted Reviews review displays a curve with ISO 50 yielding DR = 12.2 and stating it exceeds the 6D.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-performance-image-quality-verdict

So what's happening here, or is it apples vs. oranges again?

Jack
As said repeatedly ( and few seemed to listen) never believe reviews, good or bad, until you have multiple confirmation from respected sources using cameras bought as retail units. Let's wait and see what happens here....
 
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Don, I'm the happy to wait type of guy but obviously lots of reviewers jumped the gun and dumped all over this camera. But why should I care, other than I think of myself as liking to represent fairness and honest dealings and don't like the stench of folk like Donald T! ;)
 
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Jack Douglas said:
EduPortas said:
Everyone's bashing the new 6D while I happily wait for the original release to come down in price.

I was a previous owner of that model back in 2014 (sold due to financial reasons) and can

honestly say it remains a superb product. Beautiful FF aesthetic for a more or less decent price is a medium sized-body.

Yeah yeah it has practically one really good centered AF point, so what?

For serious AF work I use my 7D mark II and rip 10fps.

Video? Nah. Why would I buy a newer body with a tilt screen when I doesn't have a headphone jack?

Again, for that I'm using my 7D mark II which has mic and headphone jacks and also DPAF.

Cheers.

Makes sense to me. You can see what I've accomplished with the 6D the last 4 years. On the other hand, I sold it only a couple weeks ago and will get the 6D2 when prices hopefully drop and that also makes sense to me. My wife will be very happy with this, trust me. In other words we all have our needs, desires and restrictions and end up doing what's best for #1. However, I know such commentary doesn't make for very exciting debating on CR. ;)

Jack

Yep, you're correct. I'm still optimistic that the newer camera will have better S/R processing.

The original model is no slouch, so any improvement there would be an eye-opener.
 
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Jack Douglas said:
Don, I'm the happy to wait type of guy but obviously lots of reviewers jumped the gun and dumped all over this camera. But why should I care, other than I think of myself as liking to represent fairness and honest dealings and don't like the stench of folk like Donald T! ;)

I try to wait and be fair too. I find that the truth is usually in the middle and not at the extreme viewpoints. As to camera reviews, I work in a research lab..... results must be verifiable and repeatable, and the only way to characterize a commercial product is to go get one from the shelf, and not one cherry picked by the manufacturer. When I test something, the report contains a detailed report as to how the tests were performed and even lists model numbers and serial numbers of test equipment as well as the last calibration dates/data, this is very different from sites like DXO with their secret rating system.
 
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I'm member of a few fb Photographer groups (Mastin, VSCO, looks like film, slr lounge etc.). Before someone bashes these group, FYI, these groups have the most popular wedding photographers of the entire world (saying this because I know some members of this group lives in the cave and disrespects/dont count these groups. Yes cave people still exists and apparently they have big mouth lol).

There has been at least 20 different posts in these groups about 6d2. I'm very pleased to see the general disappointment towards Canon in these groups. I hope Canon will learn a lesson this time. Hopefully d850 and a7riii are released soon. I'm keeping my 5d3 and 6d till then.

Then adios to Canon.
 
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CanonGuy said:
I'm member of a few fb Photographer groups (Mastin, VSCO, looks like film, slr lounge etc.). Before someone bashes these group, FYI, these groups have the most popular wedding photographers of the entire world (saying this because I know some members of this group lives in the cave and disrespects/dont count these groups. Yes cave people still exists and apparently they have big mouth lol).

There has been at least 20 different posts in these groups about 6d2. I'm very pleased to see the general disappointment towards Canon in these groups. I hope Canon will learn a lesson this time. Hopefully d850 and a7riii are released soon. I'm keeping my 5d3 and 6d till then.

Then adios to Canon.

And how many of those people have already used the camera at several weddings and posted illustrative images showing exactly where the 6D MkII is failing them?

Adios...... ::)
 
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