Canon EOS R1 & Canon EOS R5 Mark II announcement coming July 17
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Yo me esperaría a la R7 IIEs difícil decidir si la R5 no te convence en algo. Si solo fotografiara pájaros, probablemente invertiría ese dinero en una mejora de lente... Eso también depende de qué tipo de especies te guste fotografiar, así como de cómo y dónde.
No es más extremo que algunos de los otros comentarios en este hilo al respecto.
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Full stacked sensors do not reduce dynamic range. Stacked sensors increase all performance variables by 20%. The new Nikon Z6 is a partial stacked sensor that doesn't make use of all available sensor readouts. A crippled sensor. Like putting only two new tires on the rear a vehicle while using worn near ball tires on the front. Duh, the two new tires will not equal the performance of the complete set. Reducing the distance of the copper lanes actually reduces the inherent noise in the circuit. Reducing the lanes however by using a partial stacked sensor reduces the amount signal. Signal + noise = Dynamic Range. Basic electronics 101. The speed of the stacked sensor increases the performance of the circuit when all lanes are used. Faster data and more computation as long as heat is dissipated. Heat will degrade performance. Nikon has sacrificed a little DR by mittigating heat by using partial readouts. Less signal.
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Except your example graph does not show all performance variables. Nor does your example include all of the other circuit factors contributing to the noise in the R3. HEAT. The R5 is a larger body and although gets cherry red hot with heat buildup, Canon throttled back other performance variables to mittigate heat. Signal + NOISE = Dynamic Range. The R5II will have a far better heat dissipation circuit and a new vent system. None of which exist in the R3. The R8 has far less performance variables, less heat and therefore less noise. The R5II will run circles around the R8. More performance variables.
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It’s not my example, it’s from Bill Claff…someone whose knows a lot more about sensor performance than you do.
The data are derived from raw image files, so all factors that go into producing an image are included.
Please stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.
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I budgeted €5000, hoping to use the difference for CFe or a Speedlite. It looks like I’ll keep using the same CFe cards from my R5 for longer than expected
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There were a couple of R7ii rumors a few months ago, but historically, 7-series hardware updates have been far between:
7D - 2009
7Dii - 2014
R7 - 2022
There were rumors of a 7Diii around early 2018, but nothing happened. Canon may have been working on it, but decided to shelve it to focus on R mirrorless.
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Not really. Roughly speaking, you have to divide.
Signal / noise floor = dynamic rage
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Because the German versions are handcrafted with love by highly skilled Zen monks, using best possible quality components.
PS: European customers could still wait for Canon's Winter Promotion or for Black Friday deals (I know, this is really utopian, but who knows?)
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How do you like your R3 and how would you say it has advantages over the R5? I really was on the fence with that camera, but decided to wait to see what the R5M2 and R1 would do. I find my RF lenses are more prone to getting dirty and outer scratches than my EF ones so I was saving the money for those as well.
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I really like the R3. Personally, for everyday use I have a strong preference for an integrated grip, so that is the main advantage for me. I use silent mode a lot, and like being able to have a modest frame rate when doing so, the R5 can’t do a slower burst.
The main deficits of the R3 for my use are really deficits for most MILCs – an inability to handle extreme defocus and the inability to focus on horizontal features. That means sometimes the R3 just fails to pick focus and needs my help (manually focusing closer or turning the camera 45°). Canon has had patents publish that could address both of those issues, I’m hoping those are implemented in the R1.
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Canon seems to historically have a full frame year and then an APS-C year. It looks full frame and cinema cameras for the rest of 2024.
I have only heard R10 talk as far APS-C goes in the last 6 months. It feels.like they're going to take the R7 in a new direction. Which is probably good thing. Canon should have a modern hybrid awesome APS-C body.
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Some have come to new insights, a couple of posts on the Z6-III:
- DPR: https://www.dpreview.com/news/84127...gests-nikon-z6-iii-pays-a-price-for-its-speed
- PetaPixel: “As an aside, the Z6 III’s dynamic range catches up to the Z6 II’s by ISO 800, so the gap in dynamic range only concerns image quality at the base and very low ISO settings” https://petapixel.com/2024/07/05/the-nikon-z6-iiis-worse-dynamic-range-mostly-doesnt-matter/
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Let’s hope so. But at this point no one knows. And for video, the A9III has the most exposure latitude of any mirrorless camera to date. So if you are a hybrid shooter this will be a factor. What I would love to see from Canon is a Triple Gain Output.. the natural evolution of DGO. That would be very interesting. I’ll likely preorder the R1… I’m hoping it will be a keeper, as I have been anticipating this release from since the EOS R was released.
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The gap was significantly larger between the 5D3 and the D800 though.
It looks like about 1.13 stops between the best camera here (A7M4) and Z6III at base ISO.
The gap between the 5D3 and D800 was 2.46 stops at ISO 100.
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