Canon EOS R1 Spotted in the wild at the Monaco GP

Where are you guys taking the info you can take higher resolution pictures with DP Raw? As far as I know that's only for a "focus shifting" thing because of the small parallax difference between the 2 subpixels.
I agree that DP Raw is not for having more resolution, the subpixels (sensels?) share the same microlens and colour filter after all. I do wonder if quad-pixel would allow that, every bump in resolving power is welcome! It won't be a 2x or 4x improvement, more like a 10% bump.
 
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I admit. I am a bit disappointed. I've been a Canon shooter since 1979/1980. Since the digital age, I owned every 1D (and 1Ds) through the 1Dx. I stopped at the first 1Dx because none of the subsequent updates were really worthwhile to buy. (I'm not a big video shooter, so I really didn't care about the video improvement.) With the R-series, I owned the R, still have my R5, and now have an R6 Mark II. I'm mainly an advertising and catalog shooter, so resolution is by and large paramount. Had the R1 been 30-36MP, I would have said, "Here's my credit card. Reserve my copy." But at 24MP, I'll keep my R6m2 for my backup. I felt the same about the R3. I loved my EOS 3 from many years ago. (I actually still have it in a closet.) I loved the eye-focus control I had on my EOS 3, so was excited about the R3. But then... 24MP. I suddenly feel Canon is stuck, yet again, with lower-res sensors. I was close to jumping ship when they took years to come out with a successor (sensor-wise) to the 1Ds Mark III. Fortunately, they introduced the 5Ds. So, mark me disappointed. Nice tech, but not what I hoped.
 
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Nope, you can get the % in the Battery menu, it has been the case for a long time (on 1D line and 5D4 at least).
I put it on MyMenu second tab along with the card and check both ahead of getting out. It is quite fast to check the % this way, but top lcd would even be better.
Yes you're right, I just never check it in %, I forgot it was implemented in the battery menu ! ;)
So it's for a different reason, maybe at the beginning just to mimic older Eos bodies LCD top screens !
 
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I admit. I am a bit disappointed. I've been a Canon shooter since 1979/1980. Since the digital age, I owned every 1D (and 1Ds) through the 1Dx. I stopped at the first 1Dx because none of the subsequent updates were really worthwhile to buy. (I'm not a big video shooter, so I really didn't care about the video improvement.) With the R-series, I owned the R, still have my R5, and now have an R6 Mark II. I'm mainly an advertising and catalog shooter, so resolution is by and large paramount. Had the R1 been 30-36MP, I would have said, "Here's my credit card. Reserve my copy." But at 24MP, I'll keep my R6m2 for my backup. I felt the same about the R3. I loved my EOS 3 from many years ago. (I actually still have it in a closet.) I loved the eye-focus control I had on my EOS 3, so was excited about the R3. But then... 24MP. I suddenly feel Canon is stuck, yet again, with lower-res sensors. I was close to jumping ship when they took years to come out with a successor (sensor-wise) to the 1Ds Mark III. Fortunately, they introduced the 5Ds. So, mark me disappointed. Nice tech, but not what I hoped.
I'm interested - you sound like you are squarely in the R5 'demographic'. The 5 series (and variants) having been Canon's higher MP vehicle for some time. Ignoring the upcoming R5 II for the moment (given the lack of detail available), what does the R5 not do that you would ideally like the R1 to provide?
 
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When a photographer wears a TAG Heuer watch, it's safe to assume he knows a thing or two about his job, too. ;)

When a photographer wears a TAG Heuer watch it might be safe to assume photography is not his primary income source. Either that or he got it comped when he shot a campaign for TAG Heuer or another Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy brand.
 
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24 to 30 is meaningless. Don't read outside the lines.

All you're saying is you don't understand who the R1 is built for. That's cool... That's why they make other cameras too.
To you. Not some of us. If 6 megapixels is meaningless, then why not include it? Yeah, the camera is built for speed, but not just that. There are all kinds of other features someone might want.

I'm wondering? Is there a way to calculate how 6mp would impact throughput?
 
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To you. Not some of us. If 6 megapixels is meaningless, then why not include it? Yeah, the camera is built for speed, but not just that. There are all kinds of other features someone might want.

I'm wondering? Is there a way to calculate how 6mp would impact throughput?
A naive, but likely correct way of calculating is to say 24 to 30 is 25% more, so things like fps and buffer size drop by 20%.
 
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I admit. I am a bit disappointed. I've been a Canon shooter since 1979/1980. Since the digital age, I owned every 1D (and 1Ds) through the 1Dx. I stopped at the first 1Dx because none of the subsequent updates were really worthwhile to buy. (I'm not a big video shooter, so I really didn't care about the video improvement.) With the R-series, I owned the R, still have my R5, and now have an R6 Mark II. I'm mainly an advertising and catalog shooter, so resolution is by and large paramount. Had the R1 been 30-36MP, I would have said, "Here's my credit card. Reserve my copy." But at 24MP, I'll keep my R6m2 for my backup. I felt the same about the R3. I loved my EOS 3 from many years ago. (I actually still have it in a closet.) I loved the eye-focus control I had on my EOS 3, so was excited about the R3. But then... 24MP. I suddenly feel Canon is stuck, yet again, with lower-res sensors. I was close to jumping ship when they took years to come out with a successor (sensor-wise) to the 1Ds Mark III. Fortunately, they introduced the 5Ds. So, mark me disappointed. Nice tech, but not what I hoped.
Maybe I am missing something...You say resolution is by and large paramount. And if the R1 had 30-36 MP you would buy it. And yet you have the 45MP R5. So, if Resolution is paramount, and you already have the higher MP camera that seemingly does everything you would need for advertising and catalog work, why would you buy the R1 if it had 30 MP? Makes no sense. It's like saying, I have the best camera for the job, but I would have spent $6,000 (or whatever it will be) to get a camera that does not do the job as well.
 
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To you. Not some of us. If 6 megapixels is meaningless, then why not include it? Yeah, the camera is built for speed, but not just that. There are all kinds of other features someone might want.

I'm wondering? Is there a way to calculate how 6mp would impact throughput?
@Canon Rumors Guy 's comment was in the context of whom the target market is and not to be taken literally for every purpose. @koenkooi's response on how it affects fps was appropriate in that context.
 
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A naive, but likely correct way of calculating is to say 24 to 30 is 25% more, so things like fps and buffer size drop by 20%.
It is indeed a proper way to move numbers around. The chip can process a certain amount of MP/s.

Then Buffer is easily fixed by adding more ram, it is cheap. However fps and hub/card are no easy fix as they depends on other parts, likely already pushed to their limits.
 
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That's the sensor plane (i.e. where the sensor is in the camera body). Useful for macro because lens minimum focus distances are specified from that point (instead of the front of the lens).
We use it in cinema. Old school focus pullers use a tape measure.
I had in mind to answer but forgot about it untill I saw this picture posted in a cinema thread
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Canon USA to launch new Cinema EOS camera on June 5, 2024 at 3PM EDT

Even the newes bodies have a pin to fix the tape measurer as seen in the right upper corner of the image.
 
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:ROFLMAO:A naive, but likely correct way of calculating is to say 24 to 30 is 25% more, so things like fps and buffer size drop by 20%.
Does the buffer size drop? Or does it fill quicker? I guess my next question is: Ok. The buffer fills quicker and empties slower. So it's maxed out for performance at 24mp? No extra room?

Like I said, this one will never be for me anyway. Just don't get 24mp. Oh well.

R5 Mark II. Maybe. Someday. :p I think I've been on this forum for at least 10 years. Just seems like the flagship would've made it to 30mp by now. I know Someone's gonna say, "Those files would be too big for pro sports photogs." Maybe true. But they can use the R3.:p They're a tiny group. They've gotten by with far less.
 
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@Canon Rumors Guy 's comment was in the context of whom the target market is and not to be taken literally for every purpose. @koenkooi's response on how it affects fps was appropriate in that context.
I get that. I just don't think 6mp is meaningless. Poor choice of words. I would think a birder would find that 6mp useful. But, maybe the R5 is better suited. I would think they are a portion of that target market. My memory might be incorrect, but it seems I remember lots of birders using the slr flagship 1DX series.. If the target is singularity pro sports photogs... Just seems doubtful. Of course, back then the 5 series was slow.
 
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My memory might be incorrect, but it seems I remember lots of birders using the slr flagship.
Depends on the birder. If you have a long enough lens, cropping becomes a diminishing return due to the combination of diffraction and atmospheric effects. Personally, with 1200mm f/8 available I don’t need to crop very deep into 24 MP and if I do, the distance is usually great enough that air distortion renders the shot unusable anyway.
 
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I get that. I just don't think 6mp is meaningless. Poor choice of words. I would think a birder would find that 6mp useful. But, maybe the R5 is better suited. I would think they are a portion of that target market. My memory might be incorrect, but it seems I remember lots of birders using the slr flagship 1DX series.. If the target is singularity pro sports photogs... Just seems doubtful. Of course, back then the 5 series was slow.
Indeed, the R5 is the body of choice for most Canon birders although there are some who do use the R3 (as well as R7, R6 etc). The 1DX series was way ahead of the 5D series for AF and fps whereas the R5 AF and fps are relatively very good and it has nearly twice the pixels as R3.
 
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Depends on the birder. If you have a long enough lens, cropping becomes a diminishing return due to the combination of diffraction and atmospheric effects. Personally, with 1200mm f/8 available I don’t need to crop very deep into 24 MP and if I do, the distance is usually great enough that air distortion renders the shot unusable anyway.
Shooting little birds, like warblers, in the medium distance, swifts in flight (as well as dragonflies) does not suffer from air distortion (as does doing dragonflies in flight). Smaller, lighter lenses are also a big advantage for rapidly swinging the camera for tracking erratic small birds close by.
 
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Does the buffer size drop? Or does it fill quicker? I guess my next question is: Ok. The buffer fills quicker and empties slower. So it's maxed out for performance at 24mp? No extra room?

Like I said, this one will never be for me anyway. Just don't get 24mp. Oh well.

R5 Mark II. Maybe. Someday. :p I think I've been on this forum for at least 10 years. Just seems like the flagship would've made it to 30mp by now. I know Someone's gonna say, "Those files would be too big for pro sports photogs." Maybe true. But they can use the R3.:p They're a tiny group. They've gotten by with far less.
I suppose the problem is the word "flagship", which I think a lot of people consider means "the best in all ways" but Canon seems not to (nor surely did it mean that originally).
 
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