Canon: No Plans for High Resolution R1

[MikeGalos]

Even in the past, the 1 series cameras were always meant for professionals, like sports- and photojournalists. It was and is by far the most rugged camera existing.

Don't confuse the needs of sports photographers and photojournalists. The former need speed of shooting over all. The latter very often need both low light capability and the ability to crop heavily when shooting an incident where getting the shot now matters most and there isn't time to find the ideal location and they aren't given a designated press zone where they can predict what lens works best at that venue.

 

[mmmm]

At the time, the flagship was the all-around, do anything professional ruggedness body. For those needing ultra high speed bursts Canon and Nikon made special high-speed bodies such as Canon's F-1 High Speed Motor Drive Camera and Nikon's F2H and F3H.

The R1 destroys every other 1 series (ie flagship) camera in spec. How is it somehow worse or not capable of ‘everything’?

 

[MikeGalos]

The R1 destroys every other 1 series (ie flagship) camera in spec. How is it somehow worse or not capable of ‘everything’?

For that matter most entry level cameras now "destroy" the early digital 1 series. What's your point?

 

[mmmm]

For that matter most entry level cameras now "destroy" the early digital 1 series. What's your point?

My point is that the R1 is no less of a flagship camera than any of the 1 series before it.

 

[mmmm]

For that matter most entry level cameras now "destroy" the early digital 1 series

Also, no they don’t. Weak plastic buttonless bodies missing even basic features like spot metering. Unless you’re fixating on megapixels.

 

[koenkooi]

Also, no they don’t. Weak plastic buttonless bodies missing even basic features like spot metering. Unless you’re fixating on megapixels.

Autofocus is another thing, but that’s mostly due to technology advancing over the years.
For my use case, the AF of my RP vastly outperformed the AF of the rented 1Dx3 when using the viewfinder. But for someone shooting sports it would likely be the opposite.

 

[mmmm]

Autofocus is another thing, but that’s mostly due to technology advancing over the years.
For my use case, the AF of my RP vastly outperformed the AF of the rented 1Dx3 when using the viewfinder. But for someone shooting sports it would likely be the opposite.

You’re right, of course. Coming from an 5div to an r1 is an incredible advancement. But I would still take the 5div over any modern level entry camera.

 

[Del Paso]

Don't confuse the needs of sports photographers and photojournalists. The former need speed of shooting over all. The latter very often need both low light capability and the ability to crop heavily when shooting an incident where getting the shot now matters most and there isn't time to find the ideal location and they aren't given a designated press zone where they can predict what lens works best at that venue.

I understand what you say, but I think both have the same need for extremely rugged and reliable cameras. I know how a friend of mine, a journalist, brutalizes his 1 D...

 

[neuroanatomist]

Unless you’re fixating on megapixels.

Pretty clear that’s the case. @MikeGalos is thoroughly baffled by the R1 being the flagship when the R5II has more MP.

Probably he felt the same about the EOS-1D X II after the 5Ds came out. Probably even the EOS-1D X III after the 5DIV. But maybe he was ok with those flagships because of the hyphen in their names.

 

[MikeGalos]

I understand what you say, but I think both have the same need for extremely rugged and reliable cameras. I know how a friend of mine, a journalist, brutalizes his 1 D...

Rugged? Absolutely. The rest, no. That's why they're really not the same market.

 

[MikeGalos]

Pretty clear that’s the case. @MikeGalos is thoroughly baffled by the R1 being the flagship when the R5II has more MP.

No. I'm just not "thoroughly baffled" by thinking that "flagship" means "specialty body optimized for sports".

 

[mmmm]

Rugged? Absolutely. The rest, no. That's why they're really not the same market.

Every professional photographer needs rugged. As rugged as possible. When you have your camera in your hand for most of the day most days, it gets beaten up. If you’re in a war zone, more so than a studio, but nonetheless. You should see the state of my equipment from general usage.

 

[mmmm]

No. I'm just not "thoroughly baffled" by thinking that "flagship" means "specialty body optimized for sports".

It’s an excellent camera. You don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s become clear.

 

[MikeGalos]

Every professional photographer needs rugged. As rugged as possible. When you have your camera in your hand for most of the day most days, it gets beaten up. If you’re in a war zone, more so than a studio, but nonetheless. You should see the state of my equipment from general usage.

Exactly. But lately it seems that the photo world (well, at least the photo online comment world) thinks there are three and only three types of professional photographers:

1. Sports photographers
2. Bird In Flight photographers
3. Wedding photographers

 

[MikeGalos]

It’s an excellent camera. You don’t know what you’re talking about, it’s become clear.

It is an excellent camera for shooting sports. No question about that.

 

[mmmm]

Exactly. But lately it seems that the photo world (well, at least the photo online comment world) thinks there are three and only three types of professional photographers:

1. Sports photographers
2. Bird In Flight photographers
3. Wedding photographers

The R1 doesn’t limit you to only that. You’re limiting it to only that. It excels at those things, and it excels at many others. There are other options for higher MP, which is all you seem to care about. So chose a different camera

It is an excellent camera for shooting sports. No question about that.

I use mine for shooting portraits. It’s phenomenal.

 

[neuroanatomist]

No. I'm just not "thoroughly baffled" by thinking that "flagship" means "specialty body optimized for sports".

Flagship = the best/top product a company makes (in a given segment). The best/top camera that Canon makes is currently the R1.

If you can’t grasp that simple concept, then “thoroughly baffled” is a mental state to which you can aspire if you can manage to escape your current state, “utterly clueless”. Best of luck with that. I’m not hopeful.

 

[MikeGalos]

Flagship = the best/top product a company makes (in a given segment).

So, are you saying there is a different Canon flagship for each segment or are you saying sports photography is the only segment that matters?

 

[mmmm]

So, are you saying there is a different Canon flagship for each segment or are you saying sports photography is the only segment that matters?

If the r1 remained exactly the same, but had 45mp, would you still consider it a sports only camera?

 

[neuroanatomist]

So, are you saying there is a different Canon flagship for each segment or are you saying sports photography is the only segment that matters?

OMFG. The R1 is not the best printer Canon makes. Nor is it the best lithography machine or CT scanner. It’s the best camera.

Evidently “utterly clueless” was giving you way too much credit.