Canon will soon announce the Canon EOS R8 and Canon EOS R50 along with two new kit lenses

I have never had a camera with a top LCD. What makes it such a good feature on the R and R5?
The side effect of the top LCD seems to be unlabelled mode dial, which I love. You can delete the modes you aren't interested in and you can switch between C1/C2/C3 with a single button. So start in Av mode, press M.Fn and you're in C1.

I don't care about the top LCD, I care about the R5 style mode dial :)
 
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They’ve been pretty tight lipped in it since up until now, Rumors had it as another APS-C slotted between the R7 and R10.
When the R system was introduced there were lots of rumors about upcoming lenses and cameras. For one part, I guess Canon wanted to get the information "great-things-are-coming" out there without being held accountable and at same time being able to evaluate peoples reaction. Therefore, they let a lot of info "slip". The roadmap CR posted in late 2020 was extremely precise. Now, the EOS R system has settled in it seems like Canon does not want to share any info about upcoming lenses and cameras. There have been fewer rumors about lenses and apparently some rumors about camera are very contradicting such as for the R8 (APS-C or full-frame?).
I recently talked to a Canon representative at photo store. Of course, he didn't tell me anything about upcoming products (why would he?), but when I asked him about the rumors and such, he just told me Canon Europe has doubled the penalty for "breach of contract" concerning "contractual secrecy" in 2022. Therefore, there are fewer related rumors I guess...
 
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R8 hoping for IBIS, one card slot, new AF, no video time limit, uncropped 4k 30 with the 30 minute limit lifted, 10 fps, newer sensor with improved dynamic range over the RP.

Not too much to ask for $1,500 is it?

They’ve been pretty tight lipped in it since up until now, Rumors had it as another APS-C slotted between the R7 and R10.
I suspect the R8 is the full frame equivalent of the R10. So you get all the things you mentioned, but no IBIS. I hope the extra $500 over the R10 price does get us IBIS, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I have been consistently wrong on predicting features for future camera bodies, though :)
 
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I have never had a camera with a top LCD. What makes it such a good feature on the R and R5?
its very much personal preference. I had the 5D3 which had one. I got used to it, but always kind of lamented how hard it was to change settings - cycle through a mode button, then press other buttons to change one of two parameters - not horrible, but i didn't feel it was particularly fast. With the R6, all the main functions (Av, Tv, ISO) have their own dial = much faster. And everything else you can see and change in the viewfinder if you want to. Or quite easily via the touch screen on the back. I do not miss the top LCD at all. But others prefer not to live without it.

-Brian
 
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In lieu of a long, expository post, I’ll keep it brief.

Meh.
I agree, nothing for me in there. I miss the earlier times when there were a lot of exciting announcements for the RF system...
Oh well I hope the 135mm 1.8 will entertain me :love: when Canon will see fit to ship it... :rolleyes:
I do understand (but not necessarily agree with personally) the strategy to "broaden" the user base and therefore the need for entry-level products. But please Canon do sprinkle something new and interesting here and there
 
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I agree, nothing for me in there. I miss the earlier times when there were a lot of exciting announcements for the RF system...
Oh well I hope the 135mm 1.8 will entertain me :love: when Canon will see fit to ship it... :rolleyes:
I do understand (but not necessarily agree with personally) the strategy to "broaden" the user base and therefore the need for entry-level products. But please Canon do sprinkle something new and interesting here and there
Are you serious? Canon has plenty new and interesting. PLENTY.
 
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I don't think anyone should get their hopes up about the R8 having IBIS. It's being placed in the lineup below the APS-C R7. For that to happen, it needs to be "less professional" than the R7, despite being full-frame. In my mind, that means no IBIS and a single SD card slot.
 
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I have never had a camera with a top LCD. What makes it such a good feature on the R and R5?
It's a matter of personal preference.
I would never buy a camera without it, other users just won't care...
The advantage of having one is, camera hanging from the neckstrap, one glance without raising the camera to eye-level, and you'll see all the important settings. My rangefinder digital lacks one, and I "hate" it for that. But there was no alternative (Leica M).
 
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R50 aps-c in the size of M50
+ 22 f2 lens
Sound great . What I like with my Sony next 6 is size, build in lamp
Is R50 gonna has build in lamp ???
It is so handy to have build in lamp

Sony was able to make small camera form nex6 with build in lamp 10years ago , canon can you make it in 2023 ?
Thanks
 
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I don't think anyone should get their hopes up about the R8 having IBIS. It's being placed in the lineup below the APS-C R7. For that to happen, it needs to be "less professional" than the R7, despite being full-frame. In my mind, that means no IBIS and a single SD card slot.
Certainly a nice to have and not a need to have for me. I only have one lens without IS and that’s the 16mm.

Better sensor, higher frame rate, improved AF, and lift the video time limit so I can replace our old camcorder. That would tick all my boxes.

And I need it before June 1st!!!
 
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I don't think anyone should get their hopes up about the R8 having IBIS. It's being placed in the lineup below the APS-C R7. For that to happen, it needs to be "less professional" than the R7, despite being full-frame. In my mind, that means no IBIS and a single SD card slot.
If you believe that IBIS will be the differentiator between a pro and non-pro body, then it will probably won't have IBIS. I don't believe that IBIS will be the differentiator between a pro and non-pro body, I actually believe IBIS will pretty much be standard soon. Only cameras that have to be very small will spare IBIS. The 1.499 € R7 has IBIS as well, why shouldn't the R8 have it?

The biggest differentiator will still be weather sealing, fast processor, AF to some degree, stacked sensors, digital converters, built-in GPS and such...
 
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If you believe that IBIS will be the differentiator between a pro and non-pro body, then it will probably won't have IBIS. I don't believe that IBIS will be the differentiator between a pro and non-pro body, I actually believe IBIS will pretty much be standard soon. Only cameras that have to be very small will spare IBIS. The 1.499 € R7 has IBIS as well, why shouldn't the R8 have it?

The biggest differentiator will still be weather sealing, fast processor, AF to some degree, stacked sensors, digital converters, built-in GPS and such...
I think IBIS is a differentiator, especially when you consider what IBIS can achieve while working in tandem with lens stabilization. It gives a heck of an advantage in many shooting scenarios.

Full-frame sensors are considerably more expensive to manufacture than APS-C, so I don't think the R8 can hit the same price point as the R7 without sacrificing IBIS.
 
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I´m going with 30 MP, same sensor as in the R. If it's 24MP, they might use the RP sensor. I'd guess Canon would like to protect the new tech from the R6mkII, especially because it is only a few months old.
Makes sense, but Canon could save some cash using the same sensor in two bodies. The R8 without IBIS and dual card slots really wouldn't compete with the R6 Mk II.
 
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I can't imagine spending $1700 on a first FF camera and having such pathetic limitations from the kit lens. I can see knowledgeable photographers wanting the R8 for lots of different reasons, but the kit is going to be sold to newbies and create massive disappointments. The R8 kit should be labeled the "hobby killer" and sold to spouses who want to exterminate the photo bug within their household.
 
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I actually thought the R8 would get IBIS but with the 24-50mm being IS I kind of doubt it now. I could live without IBIS but I need 2 card slots. Unfortunately I don´t think that this is going to happen because 2 slots are more a pro feature that most amateurs don´t care about at all.

But if it doesn´t have IBIS and neither 2 card slots, wich both are included in the similarly priced Nikon Z5, and in the also similarly priced Sony a7III (although obviously older) the main advantage of the R8 will be the better AF.

I would hope for this:

- 6-8 fps with full AF (vs. 40 in R6II)
- DP2-AF (as in all new bodies)
- 30 MP sensor (maybe it´s only going to be 24 MP)
- 4K 30 full sensor, 1080 120 (vs. 4K 60, 1080 180 in R6II)
- IBIS (not so sure anymore if that´s going to happen)
- 2 card slots (wishfull thinking, very unlikely)

So I hope the main differentiators to the R6II will be:

- less speed (fps)
- less video features
- less wether sealing
- less dials and settings

But I´m afraid apart from that also NO IBIS and NO 2nd card slot will be differentiators.
 
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