Here’s the full list of gear Canon will announce on September 5

It seems petty for me to say an R6 and 6D2 can't be sold alongside each other... but in my day job I've seen petty/picky new product development decisions on things from nomenclature, sizing schemes, part numbers blow up into months of bickering debate.

Me: "We should call a meeting and rope everyone in to hammer this [nomenclature / sizing / etc. thing we need] out."

Business: "You are overthinking it, but okay."

Me: "I had that meeting and we have a full-scale war on our hands with 4 different orgs if we do what we planned. Here's what we need to do..."

Happens more often than you think, especially when it's a new platform instead of just a new arm of an existing system, line extension, etc. Everyone and their mother sees the new platform as a chance to re-define it in terms that they've always wanted it to be defined in.
So it's EOS R as in compRomise...:)
 
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In other news, I can't tell if Panasonic are geniuses or fools with their news today.

Genius = this announcement blunts any desire for Canon videographers to buy in EOS R.

Fools = their sweet rumor will get very few eyes today amidst the earthquake of buzz for this EOS R news.

(Please discuss that news on that thread. I'm just reflecting on their timing vs. Canon's announcement here.)

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Also, given my love of my 24-70 f/4L IS 0.7x macro mode and my love of wide-standard primes, I am quite possibly more interested in this 35 prime on the launch list than the 50. (Yeah, I said it.)

Quick + 28-35mm + Macro could be gold as a leave-it-on-the-camera travel/walkabout/food/street lens.

I've always thought (EF-S/EF-M's) wide + 1:1 macro is a great idea, but to have it in FF with IS and a bright f/1.8 aperture could be amazing.

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That's because Nokishita doesn't post rumors. I'm curious to know the last time they got something wrong.

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There are so many posts that I am probably repeating what everyone knows as I probably have missed it, but Nokishita describes this as a grade C rumour: "C (credible rumor) : rumors from trustworthy sources. You can trust the rumor general, but there are many mistakes about trivial information"
 
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thx. I know, i can count to 3. :p


Are you sure, that
“M.ADAP R” “M.ADAP R ND” “M.ADAP R PL”

does not stand for M.[ount] ADAP[ter] R" for EF lenses? To mount EF glass on R mount? 3 versions, one basic and 2 with built-in filters, because the hollow extension tube has enough space to put a filter in? The "PL" version may have some "knob on the outside" to rotate circ. pol. filter ... it would allow adding ND or Circ.Pol for any EF-lens (!), irrespective of front lens diameter?

Those adapters could possibly have 3 functions then
* mount adapter to make up for shorter flange distance
* filter option, especially for large front element lenses or lenses like TS/UWW without filter thread/bulbous front element bulbous it would be really nice and cut into a lot of 3rd party filter/holder makers sales ;-)
* lens foot [like EF-M/EF adapter), but with Arca-groves milled in

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I agree. The focus of this announcement and release is for FF users - not M camera owners. M camera owners will get an adapter eventually, but the focus now must be on all of the owners of EF lenses. Canon knows that many of those EF lens owners won't be happy with an adapter, but to satisfy them a little bit, they will create two adapters that take or have filters built in. Having room for the filters implies the mount will be thinner.

I think this camera is meant for the enthusiast who seems to be clamoring for something new - (meaning smaller). I do believe that there will eventually (within the next year) be an EF mount mirrorless geared towards the pro market. Pros normally aren't going to be as impatient as enthusiasts. They can wait until their current equipment needs to be replaced.
 
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Wow! Some random comments:

1) Glad they gave us 24-105, not 70, in the mid-range RF zoom.
2) Even if this is in the mid-20's for MP count, Topaz has a new tool called AI Gigapixel which is seriously good for uprez. Not kidding. Could tide you over until the high-rez body comes out, depending on your needs.
3) There is no way the RF 24-105 would not have IS. So either the IS got dropped from the lens designation, or there is IBIS.
4) Kinda glad I held off on the 6D mk II. But if the new cam has poor DR I'll be in a quandary. :unsure: I'm hopefully optimistic though. Gosh, what if it has the same sensor as the 6D mk II... o_O
5) Look for good deals on the 6D mk II this holiday shopping season!
 
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I agree. The focus of this announcement and release is for FF users - not M camera owners. M camera owners will get an adapter eventually, but the focus now must be on all of the owners of EF lenses. Canon knows that many of those EF lens owners won't be happy with an adapter, but to satisfy them a little bit, they will create two adapters that take or have filters built in. Having room for the filters implies the mount will be thinner.

Not necessarily. Not if the new camera takes EF natively then it would make sense to create an adapter for the M Series to accept RF lenses. I guess we will see shortly.
 
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There are so many posts that I am probably repeating what everyone knows as I probably have missed it, but Nokishita describes this as a grade C rumour: "C (credible rumor) : rumors from trustworthy sources. You can trust the rumor general, but there are many mistakes about trivial information"
Nonsense! This forum is at fever pitch and will not calm down until Wednesday! Set expectations to maximum! o_O

But seriously, yes, let's take this all with a grain of salt.
 
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There are so many posts that I am probably repeating what everyone knows as I probably have missed it, but Nokishita describes this as a grade C rumour: "C (credible rumor) : rumors from trustworthy sources. You can trust the rumor general, but there are many mistakes about trivial information"


I recognize they have a credibility scale, but I'm honestly asking folks: when was the last time they got something wrong?

Nokishita is much much less conjecture, 'what I'm hearing', etc. than it is 'here is your new camera that's coming out next week'.

(that said, I love CR Guy's work and this site is a treasure)

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I recognize they have a credibility scale, but I'm honestly asking folks: when was the last time they got something wrong?

Nokishita is much much less conjecture, 'what I'm hearing', etc. than it is 'here is your new camera that's coming out next week'.

(that said, I love CR Guy's work and this site is a treasure)

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I am sure the essence of this is correct, but perhaps there are problems or typos with the original supply chain order form they are reporting on. For example, the RF 35mm 1.8M IS could be a typo for RF 35mm 1.8 USM since the other lenses have USM designated (and the EF-M 32 has STM).
 
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I'm still wondering why a 50mm lens is RF rather than EF. Why should it have trouble with the mirror clearance requirements for EF


Because we don't know what this magical mount is or how it works. It could be a nested design or it could be that the new lenses retract into the space that the mirror used to occupy.

Everyone is reading what's not in this leak -- critically, there's no EF to RF adaptor listed -- as meaning that this is a full EF thickness mount. That may turn out to be a bad assumption: perhaps the ordering list was truncated? So Nokishita could have given us a 100% truthful list but our brains are harping on what's not on it. That might come back to bite us.

I'll believe it more when I can see it with my own eyes, and if this rumor is correct, we should have marketing photos in a couple days. That will be the nail in the coffin for thin/thick.

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