Is a Canon EOS R7 Mark II coming this year? [CR2]
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This is just the start of the equivalent 7Diii rumours!
Moaning for years that Canon hasn't released it yet
Moaning for years that Canon hasn't released it yet
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I passed over that to use use British games: a ruffian's game played by gentlemen and a gentleman's game played by ruffians.You missed the opportunity to say ‘make a football look American’.
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The Sony A7smkii officially has 12,2 MP and the successor A7s mkiii "only" has 12,007 MP. That right there absolutely ruined the camera
Now, I just read that in article once (it is actually true*) and I just thought: "how can the author even care about that tiny difference on the spec sheet
Other than that, I can´t think of an example.
*sony.de website states 12,2 (mkii) and 12,1 (mkiii)
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I thought Canon is dooooommmed. Why so many exciting rumours....
R7ii will push used R7 into R50~R10 msrp category, which will be great for starters.
Spec-wise I'm not betting on stacked BSI as it will be too expensive. A fast FSI/BSI will do, keep the price as it's now. And just let Sigma 18-50&10-18 have RF mount. It will totally crush a6700, which upsets SonNikon fanboys, that I would love to see.
R7ii will push used R7 into R50~R10 msrp category, which will be great for starters.
Spec-wise I'm not betting on stacked BSI as it will be too expensive. A fast FSI/BSI will do, keep the price as it's now. And just let Sigma 18-50&10-18 have RF mount. It will totally crush a6700, which upsets SonNikon fanboys, that I would love to see.
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Sony a7rII has a handful more pixels than Sony a7Riii.
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It doesn't surprise me one bit about someone only caring about specs. I'm always seeing people posting like as soon as the f-stop reaches above whatever number it's unusable.The Sony A7smkii officially has 12,2 MP and the successor A7s mkiii "only" has 12,007 MP. That right there absolutely ruined the camera
Now, I just read that in article once (it is actually true*) and I just thought: "how can the author even care about that tiny difference on the spec sheet
Other than that, I can´t think of an example.
*sony.de website states 12,2 (mkii) and 12,1 (mkiii)
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100%. Ten years ago, if you couldn't push the deep shadows by 10 stops without seeing noise (along with the lack of detail that goes along with being deep shadow) at 500% enlargement, the gear was *unusable*.
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Interesting to note that there is often a tendency to associate 'improve' with increase mpx. Technically, 12 mpx is sufficient for viewing an image at 'normal' viewing distance (i.e. about as far away from the image as the diagonal of the image). As such, taking into account the need to do cropping if necessary, I find that around 30mps FF equivalent is a good spot for me as I do mainly travel & amateur wildlife photography. When the R7 was launch, I was hesitant to go for it because the 32mpx (or about 82mpx FF equivalent) is fairly unforgiving for lenses that do not quite have the resolving power, and when reports came through about its relatively shorter dynamic range, focusing issue in low contrast situations, and slow readout speeds, the decision to wait for R7II became clear. Now that R7II is rumoured to appear on the horizon, I actually hope that it would have lower mpx and faster readout speed (close to R6II/R8 would be great), assuming a similar body with dual card, and better dynamic range that is. Not asking for much
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My research shows the R6 came out in July 2020 the R6 II in Nov 2023, nearly 3.5 years later.
Original 6D released Sept 2012, 6D II June 2016 (I believe the RP was considered the mirror less version of the 6D when it came out Feb 2019)
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For me too, FF 30 MP are everything I need.Interesting to note that there is often a tendency to associate 'improve' with increase mpx. Technically, 12 mpx is sufficient for viewing an image at 'normal' viewing distance (i.e. about as far away from the image as the diagonal of the image). As such, taking into account the need to do cropping if necessary, I find that around 30mps FF equivalent is a good spot for me as I do mainly travel & amateur wildlife photography. When the R7 was launch, I was hesitant to go for it because the 32mpx (or about 82mpx FF equivalent) is fairly unforgiving for lenses that do not quite have the resolving power, and when reports came through about its relatively shorter dynamic range, focusing issue in low contrast situations, and slow readout speeds, the decision to wait for R7II became clear. Now that R7II is rumoured to appear on the horizon, I actually hope that it would have lower mpx and faster readout speed (close to R6II/R8 would be great), assuming a similar body with dual card, and better dynamic range that is. Not asking for much
But my needs are not everyone's needs, and the market hates lower figures, youtubers even more...
Things could be different for an expensive APS/C camera, many users will certainly be wildlife specialists wanting a high MP count.
Therefore, a camera with selectable MPs could be ideal, like the M11 (60, 36 and 18 MP). This feature, I think could be implemented in FF (R5 II?), for APS/C, chances are much lower.
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I've been very happy with the 24MP in my R8, but when doing things like focus stacking, I'd really like to have a lot more MP. With static subjects like lego sets, IBIS multishot would help. I did try with the 400MP gimmick in the R5 and it 'worked', but it was a big hassle, more automation would massively improve this.For me too, FF 30 MP are everything I need.
But my needs are not everyone's needs, and the market hates lower figures, youtubers even more...
Things could be different for an expensive APS/C camera, many users will certainly be wildlife specialists wanting a high MP count.
Therefore, a camera with selectable MPs could be ideal, like the M11 (60, 36 and 18 MP). This feature, I think could be implemented in FF (R5 II?), for APS/C, chances are much lower.
With subjects like dragonflies, I'd like a lot more megapixels and the most FPS you get get. I see no reason why the R3 can't use its 195 FPS feature during focus stacking, my R8 limits it to 30fps, while it can do 40fps in non-stacking mode
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First, a Mark ii crop will have the same dynamic range as, or very close to, the current R7. A crop sensor has 1.36 stops less DR than a FF because of its smaller area. The R7 has very good DR, the same as the R5 or any other top quality FF in crop mode - see the photons to photo graph. Secondly, for telephotos for bird and wild life, the R7 outresolves the R5 nicely with the RF 100-500mm, RF 200-800mm and RF 100-400mm but I wouldn't put a TC on. In practice, the main draw back is the slow read out speed that causes rolling shutter and has a negative impact on the AF speed. In practice, I find the AF easily good enough in most circumstances. I personally find 45 Mpx on the R5 much better for cropping for bird/wild life than 30 Mpx - it's about as good as having a 1.4x added on when the loss of IQ and narrower aperture come int to it.Interesting to note that there is often a tendency to associate 'improve' with increase mpx. Technically, 12 mpx is sufficient for viewing an image at 'normal' viewing distance (i.e. about as far away from the image as the diagonal of the image). As such, taking into account the need to do cropping if necessary, I find that around 30mps FF equivalent is a good spot for me as I do mainly travel & amateur wildlife photography. When the R7 was launch, I was hesitant to go for it because the 32mpx (or about 82mpx FF equivalent) is fairly unforgiving for lenses that do not quite have the resolving power, and when reports came through about its relatively shorter dynamic range, focusing issue in low contrast situations, and slow readout speeds, the decision to wait for R7II became clear. Now that R7II is rumoured to appear on the horizon, I actually hope that it would have lower mpx and faster readout speed (close to R6II/R8 would be great), assuming a similar body with dual card, and better dynamic range that is. Not asking for much
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I've just booked flights to Hong Kong for a conference and will have a day or two at either end for a spot of bird photography. Do I travel with just a single piece of cabin luggage with the R7/RF 100-400mm in it or take the R5 or R7 with the RF 100-500 in a small allowable second bag? It's not a bad choice either way - we are so lucky now for light travel possibilities. (The big boy 200-800mm is not for this trip.)
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Thanks for that. I have assumed that noise creeps in at lower ISO for sensor with smaller pixel in general. This seems to translate into a shorter 'useable' DR before noise reduction in post. Looking at the chart, the R7 seems to have shorter DR compared to the R5(APS-C) - the closed symbol for R7 ends about a stop earlier than the R5(APS-C). Am I reading this correctly? Having said this, that 1 stop at the high ISO end would likely not make much material difference which very good denoising software available, and that most shots would likely not reach that ISO level.
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Strictly speaking neither of those examples are "mark II", even if they were spiritual successors of the older models. Apologies for being unclear (seems I was from the replies!) - I meant has Canon ever released a model named mark II (or III etc) that had lower resolution than the earlier one. And although examples from other brands are interesting, I imagine each company has its own philosophy and rules about naming conventions.
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