It’s here, Canon RF 100-300mm f/2.8L IS USM officially announced

Why else make them that way? They could have made the barrel longer in front, putting it even with the extended optics.

For EF, ‘official’ compatibility was restricted to L lenses 135mm or longer. When the 70-300L came out, it was listed as incompatible with the extenders, but that changed ‘officially’ with the 1D X firmware update that enabled f/8 AF, when the 1.4x was listed as compatible (even though it was not reported to the body, since the lens lacks the three extra pinouts).
Sorry, I am not sure about what you are commenting on. Is it the design of the RF 100-500m? If Canon deliberately hog-tied its TC capabilities for market segmentation, then I am not impressed. If they did it to optimise optical quality, then I wish they would explain so.
 
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That's nothing to do with the mount, it is because AF is on the sensor - using DPAF, they can focus at f/11 and narrower. I used to focus EF lenses on the 5DIV at apertures narrower than f/8 using stacked TCs or a 3x Kenko TC with Liveview, which uses DPAF on the sensor. It's being mirrorless that is important for the improved AF.
YOu had much more luck with high F ratio focusing on DSLR than I did I guess.

But the RF mount and mirrorless tech go hand in hand.

-Brian
 
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BTW, for the 1960 Olympics in Toyko, Nikon produced a handful of 300mm F2.0 lenses. I can't imagine shooting with that manual focus monster and pushing ISO 400 film as well.
The Nikkor AI-S 300/2.0 was released in 1981, and it came with it's own dedicated 1.4x teleconverter that had optics designed specifically for this lens. It would work with other Nikon super-teles from the era and was generally considered to be Nikon's best 1.4x TC for manual focus lenses. The lens itself was huge and very heavy.

Something that very few people know is that Canon actually made an EF 300/1.8L USM in very, very small numbers. They were mostly used by horse racing tracks in Japan for photo finishes. You can find a few photos of them online if you Google. I've seen a EF 1200/5.6L in person, and a lot of other exotic glass, but never a 300/1.8L!
 
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Sorry, I am not sure about what you are commenting on. Is it the design of the RF 100-500m? If Canon deliberately hog-tied its TC capabilities for market segmentation, then I am not impressed. If they did it to optimise optical quality, then I wish they would explain so.
The TC designs, with the protruding optics. They could have extended the outer part of the TC to make the end flush with the optics (with appropriate design changes to those optics). Applies to EF and RF.

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For older lens designs, it didn't matter because the telephoto designs left plenty of room at the back. The shorter flange enables shorter backfocus distances, but as pointed out the newer design of the EF 70-300L, with a floating rear element to enable better sharpness at close focus, also precluded full extender compatibility.
 
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The Canon 600mm F4.0 weighs 7 lb. The Nikon 300mm F2.0 weighed 17 lb. Can we get a video of someone hand holding it ? :unsure:
No video of someone shooting with it, but a dealer has a video showcasing it. You can see the front element to scale vs person.


Also more info on the 300 2.0
 
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Would you expect a Wimberley AP-601 lens foot to work on the RF 100-300 mm f2.8 lens?

I have a spare Wimberley AP-601 lens foot that is designed to fit the 400 mm f2.8 III lens. Would it be reasonable to expect it to fit the RF100-300 mm f2.8 lens? Just asking.
 
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I preordered as well, from B&H. I am surprised (and pleased) by the expected May availability. I hope they stick to it (the EL-5 that I preordered back in November was supposed to ship in late March, but now is supposed to ship at the end of June).
I am surprised and pleased as well, but would not be surprised if there are some delays. According to Canon USA the expected availability is May 31, 2023. I might not have the lens for my July trip, but hope to have it for my August trip.
 
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If true, then what so and sos they are. I really hope that 3rd party extenders will appear. The RF 100-400 is full compatible with the TCs.
But the resulting 200-800mm F11-16 isn't going to be a whole lot of use to anyone. The net result of diffraction and a mediocre resolution-destroying 2x extender and being forced to use slow shutter speeds or high ISO in anything but bright sunlight, isn't going to encourage anyone to slap a 2x extender on the RF100-400mm.

It's product segmentation, coercing RF100-500 owners into buying a 70-200, and avoiding cannibalising sales of a potential 200-600.
 
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Would you expect a Wimberley AP-601 lens foot to work on the RF 100-300 mm f2.8 lens?

I have a spare Wimberley AP-601 lens foot that is designed to fit the 400 mm f2.8 III lens. Would it be reasonable to expect it to fit the RF100-300 mm f2.8 lens? Just asking.
I would. I was wondering about an RRS foot for the new lens. I did a Photoshop overlay (as best I could, I couldn’t find product images with the exact same orientation), of the tripod foot of the RF 100–300 with that of the RF 400/2.8, and it appears to be the same tripod foot.

I’m going to order a 112mm B+W clear filter soon, I may order an RRS LCF-53 foot as well under the assumption that it will fit. That foot works for many of the great whites including the RF 400/2.8. It’s the same foot I have on my 600/4 II, although RRS gave it a ‘silent’ update (same model number) to incorporate a socket for the QD strap system at some point after I purchased mine. Worst case scenario (if the foot does not fit the 100-300), I’ll swap out the foot on my 600/4 and convert my BlackRapid left-handed strap from the Kirk 1” clamp to a QD lug.
 
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I would. I was wondering about an RRS foot for the new lens. I did a Photoshop overlay (as best I could, I couldn’t find product images with the exact same orientation), of the tripod foot of the RF 100–300 with that of the RF 400/2.8, and it appears to be the same tripod foot.

I’m going to order a 112mm B+W clear filter soon, I may order an RRS LCF-53 foot as well under the assumption that it will fit. That foot works for many of the great whites including the RF 400/2.8. It’s the same foot I have on my 600/4 II, although RRS gave it a ‘silent’ update (same model number) to incorporate a socket for the QD strap system at some point after I purchased mine. Worst case scenario (if the foot does not fit the 100-300), I’ll swap out the foot on my 600/4 and convert my BlackRapid left-handed strap from the Kirk 1” clamp to a QD lug.
I thought it would work as well so it is worth trying.
 
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Thankfully the price is the predicted price. Its so high I don't have to consider it at all. Thanks Canon, you've done me a favour there.
I'm happy with the 100-500 - works very well outdoor. This 100-300 would be a great indoor lens but I don't have much need for that. My 70-200mm will do.
If it drops the second hand price of the EF 300mm 2.8 II - I'd highly recommend picking up one. I generally have the 1.4 extender on it shooting sport. It's a most beautiful lens. It will do me for many years yet.
 
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But the resulting 200-800mm F11-16 isn't going to be a whole lot of use to anyone. The net result of diffraction and a mediocre resolution-destroying 2x extender and being forced to use slow shutter speeds or high ISO in anything but bright sunlight, isn't going to encourage anyone to slap a 2x extender on the RF100-400mm.

It's product segmentation, coercing RF100-500 owners into buying a 70-200, and avoiding cannibalising sales of a potential 200-600.
I agree that adding TCs don’t do much when you are above the diffraction limited aperture, and have lots of posts on this in the past. They are actually pretty good on the 100-400 on low resolution sensors like the R6 but pretty hopeless on the R7. What I was pointing out was that Canon could easily make the TCs compatible if they wanted. I got good results with the 1.4 on the 100-400mm when I had the R6 and I am sure it will be the same on the R8 and R6 II. (The RF 100-400mm + 1.4xTC on the R6 was very similar to the bare lens on the R7 For resolution).
 
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But the resulting 200-800mm F11-16 isn't going to be a whole lot of use to anyone. The net result of diffraction and a mediocre resolution-destroying 2x extender and being forced to use slow shutter speeds or high ISO in anything but bright sunlight, isn't going to encourage anyone to slap a 2x extender on the RF100-400mm.
If I were a beginner bird photographer with a very tight budget I'd probably go with a combination like that. I used worse back when I was starting out over 10 years ago. (Even now I'm using the 800 f/11 + 1.4x and it's more usable than I expected).
 
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Those crazy Canon engineers. They didn't consider what some guy on the internet thought of! (I wonder if the design left room for a filter, or if there would be a weight penalty?)
How about the fact I work with these lenses for a living and actually OWN the EF 300mm f/2.8L II. I'm sharing what literally every single motorsports photographer that actually knows what they're doing is going to say about it - we all use CPLs and we all use ND filters. They are essential items for (good) motorsports photography without any question at all.

Canon now describes this lens as an "Indoor Sports Lens" so it's clear to me they are away of this limitation.
 
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