"Working on it" is not a promise that they will ever get it to work.
Not sure that should influence your buying decision.
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Canon officially announces the EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II
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Not sure that should influence your buying decision.
Well, we can agree on one thing though, right? It's either the same OR an even better processor! There should not be a single technical limitation holding the R5 Mark II back in this category. 8K oversampled 4K60p should at least be possible with the active cooling grip!
Even the OFFICIAL Canon marketing material included 8K oversampled 4K60p! The camera does NOT let you select this option though!
It‘s still up on the Canon website take a look yourself! "[…] 4K at up to 120p, plus 4K 60p oversampled from 8K"
Introducing the EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II
Discover the new features and cutting-edge technologies in Canon’s next-generation full-frame mirrorless cameras.
www.canon-europe.com
Canon might simply not want the R5 Mark II to have this feature to leave room for another camera (market segmentation) so they artificially limit the R5 II as it‘d be „too good“ otherwise. Maybe they want this to be an exclusive feature for another camera and changed course very recently. It's just weird that they are STILL PROMOTING 8K oversampled 4K60p in the R5 Mark II right now! What is going on??
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It would at least confirm that it's only a technical limitation they're trying to work out and might or might not succeed in doing so.
But they might also simply not want the R5 Mark II to have 8K oversampled 4K60p so that the camera isn't "too good" for reasons of market segmentation to leave room for another camera with this exclusive feature.
If we at least knew that they're still working on it that'd be interesting to know and there is at least a chance we'll get it eventually. We will never get it if they actively decided that they do NOT want this to be in this camera and are therefore not even working on it at the moment. I just don't understand why the official Canon marketing material is STILL PROMOTING 8K oversampled 4K60p in the R5 Mark II right now! "[…] 4K at up to 120p, plus 4K 60p oversampled from 8K" https://www.canon-europe.com/pro/news/meet-eos-r1-and-eos-r5-mark-ii/
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Thank you for correcting me. I accidentally posted the value for the EFCS. Not electronic shutter (ES). With ES the flash sync is 1/400.
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Best Youtube comment I saw, "All these T7i owners insanely disappointed in the R1 they were never going to buy." And I know some people even see the lack of a need to upgrade to the R5 ii as a negative, but for me I think its a testament to how great the R5 was at launch. More than happy to put that $4k towards a lens now.
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Question for the forum:
I have an R5 already that I use for bird photography, along with the R7 (for now, likely to go with R7ii if they actually improve it). In your opinion is there a compelling reason to add the R1 for other types of photography, which mainly consists of daughter doing stuff, and interesting insects with a macro lens?
I have an R5 already that I use for bird photography, along with the R7 (for now, likely to go with R7ii if they actually improve it). In your opinion is there a compelling reason to add the R1 for other types of photography, which mainly consists of daughter doing stuff, and interesting insects with a macro lens?
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If you are not into pro sports, personally I would say no.
But if you want to spend some money on another camera and you are / your daughter is interested in macros of insects: get an OM-System OM-1 II together with their 60/2.8 Macro or the 90/3.5 Macro
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I believe it is very likely that there are no hardware limitations that would prevent oversampled 4k60. But I don’t know for sure, so I’ll treat the R5II as not having it or gaining it.
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There would be ZERO reasons for you to get the R1. It is meant for pro sports and news photographers needing the most rugged, durable camera. Either the R5 or the R7 can handle the other types of photography you mention, so no new camera needed at all.
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I always felt like the answer to "Should I buy a 1-series camera" is along the lines of "If you need one you know it already"
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Then WHY does the official Canon website still say the following? "Canon EOS R5 Mark II offers 8K RAW at 60fps and 4K at up to 120p, plus 4K 60p oversampled from 8K." https://www.canon-europe.com/pro/news/meet-eos-r1-and-eos-r5-mark-ii/
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Why do three different official Canon websites (US, Europe, Japan) list different flash sync speeds in the specs for the R1? Why does the ‘most official’ Canon website (Japan) list the R1 max flash sync with electronic shutter as 1/400 s on the features tab, but as 1/320 s on the specifications tab?
Patience, grasshopper. These niggles will get sorted out in a few weeks.
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Because correcting all these small errors is not very high on their priority list.
Get over it. The R5 Mark II will not start shipping with this feature and no one can tell if it ever will. Even a "we are working on it" from Canon's side will not garantee anything. So if not having this feature is a dealbreaker for you: don't by this camera until it really has it.
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Canon caters to their bottom line, not to specific disciplines of photographers.
I shoot a fair bit of architecture, and Canon’s offerings work well for me. I don’t make gallery-sized prints, so I don’t need high MP. I’m with @Richard CR regarding the limited real-world difference between 45 and 50-60 MP, and if I actually needed high MP then I’d be using MF at 100-150 MP.
As for lenses, my adapted TS-E 17 and 24 II work wonderfully for architecture.
Canon will release lenses in the order that best serves them. You’re always free to switch brands and use the many TS/PC lenses that Sony and Nikon have released for their mirrorless mounts.
As I keep saying, you get to speak for yourself but not for anyone else. I suppose by invoking the ‘I speak for a large number of others’ language, people think it makes their personal opinions more valid. But they’re still just personal opinions, and claiming yours is shared by many others just makes you look foolish.
I value ‘slow photography’, much of my shooting is from a tripod, and I do a lot of long exposure photography. As I stated above, my Canon gear meets my needs just fine. The difference is that I’m not claiming that gear would meet your needs just because it meets mine. I’ll leave asinine statements like that to people like you.
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That’s not the point. What you wrote was:
You could’ve stopped with your needs, but you chose to add that parenthetical bit that anyone else who shoots similar subjects as you has the same opinion as you.
As I said, Canon is doing a great job serving my ‘slow photography’ needs.
Your opinions aren’t universal.
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There is a chance you will and a chance you won't.
I do not see how this tidbit of information changes that.
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