Canon officially announces the EOS R1 and EOS R5 Mark II
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The R5C has proven that it is possible. The R5 Mark II also has active cooling with the grip AND an image processor that is at least as capable as the image processor of the R5C as the R5 Mark II even has a new processor next to the Digic X. And the R5C was able to process it without the coprocessor.
So yes, this isn't even an assumption it's pretty much a fact as the R5C has proven YEARS ago!
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The R1 caters to specific disciplines of photographers.
In order for Canon to cater to its bottom line, it needs to produce equipment that photographers of varying disciplines believe will aide them. If Canon produces cameras that don't cater to the needs of photographers then neither will it be catering to its bottom line. The goal is for there to be a win-win scenario, where Canon's bottom line AND photographers get catered to. Nobody wants to be the loser.
The R1 is quite clearly aimed at a very specific set of photographers that have a need that I'm sure will be well served. I have no doubt the R1 will be a success.
As for the R5-II, wait and see. There's now a very large gap, over $2000, between the R6II and the R5II. Sony are in that slot with the A7RV and Nikon with the Z7. That's a huge price gap hole. I can get a 45MP Nikon camera with lens for less than the R5II. Sure the R5II is going to be better than the Z7 at a whole host of things, but if I'm buying a camera as a casual shooter, the non-Canon alternatives look very attractive.
I think Canon has a problem there and that may be why there are R6III rumors, but if those rumors of the 24MP sensor staying are true then I dont think the R6III will be the panacea that Canon needs for that price point.
I think the R5II is a gamble by Canon on people wanting to pay a premium for 8K video in a camera that is designed for stills. I'm not saying Canon is doomed but I don't understand and can't see the rationale in the R5II choices they've made, especially considering the rest of their product lineup vs competitors.
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After sleeping on this and reading some stuff online. My thoughts which are naturally universally true to all photographers:
Week ago I was fairly certain I'd buy R1 somewhat soon-ish, like 6-18 months. Now seeing the release I'm not sure. Pondering:
Week ago I was fairly certain I'd buy R1 somewhat soon-ish, like 6-18 months. Now seeing the release I'm not sure. Pondering:
- The pre-buffer would help me a lot, but I can't imagine using DPP to get the images out so it needs to save normal raw and/or jpeg. TBC.
- R3 already has great tracking so if it's better, great, but is it worth the money?
- MPix count is fine.
- Variable fps is nice
- Dual CFExpress is nice although both R5 and R3 I dual-save to CFX+SD and I never hit buffer. I'm not holding shutter down _that_ long
- Improved eye AF sounds nice. I haven't tried it yet on R3 but improvement usually means it's better. Not big deal for me at the moment.
- If I was considering R3 today, I might go R5-2 instead. It sounds like it does basically all R3 does, but also has higher MPix for non-sports
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Both the R5II and R1 save separate CR3s/jpegs in their pre-capture mode.
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I'm late to the "party of opinions", but here's mine...
So the R5II didn't get the rumoured extra dynamic range boost and 16bit RAW from DGO-sensor or other tricks. No sign of a built-in GPS either as rumoured/tipped by CR on social media.
But still a pretty nice update if you ask me. The stacked sensor technology including 14bit ES, AF upgrades (remember, also includes AF-upgrades introduced with R3/R7/R10 too), apparently a pretty good pre-capture implementation, the new hotshoe and Eye-control AF are the most interesting with my needs/priorities... or that is if I was a fullframe/R5 shooter - But I'm not a fullframe shooter, so I hope at least the stacked sensor tech with 14bit ES, AF upgrades and new pre-capture trickles down to the next R7 generation some day. I would love to see the eye-control AF included too, but that might be a bit unrealistic to hope for in an R7?
Yeah, sorry. It always end as being about the R7II when I post
So the R5II didn't get the rumoured extra dynamic range boost and 16bit RAW from DGO-sensor or other tricks. No sign of a built-in GPS either as rumoured/tipped by CR on social media.
But still a pretty nice update if you ask me. The stacked sensor technology including 14bit ES, AF upgrades (remember, also includes AF-upgrades introduced with R3/R7/R10 too), apparently a pretty good pre-capture implementation, the new hotshoe and Eye-control AF are the most interesting with my needs/priorities... or that is if I was a fullframe/R5 shooter - But I'm not a fullframe shooter, so I hope at least the stacked sensor tech with 14bit ES, AF upgrades and new pre-capture trickles down to the next R7 generation some day. I would love to see the eye-control AF included too, but that might be a bit unrealistic to hope for in an R7?
Yeah, sorry. It always end as being about the R7II when I post
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So much for CR having inside sources to get specs when they were not even close. And no, guessing it have 24mp doesn't count. That was super obvious to anyone in the photo industry.
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It's a proven fact that the image processor can handle 8K oversampled 4K60p (more capable image processor | Digic X + Coprocessor).
This leaves us with heat dissipation. Well, the R5 Mark II also has active cooling just like the R5C so this isn't an issue either although it should even be possible to record 8K oversampled 4K60p WITHOUT any active cooling as the Nikon Z8 doesn't need any active cooling in order to pull this off and it's been like that for years.
At the very least the R5 Mark II should be capable of 8K oversampled 4K60p with the active cooling grip.
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With regards to the R1 I would ask yourself do you need to its features that differentiate from the R5 Mk2. The R5 Mk2 AF system appears to be identical to the R1 except for the cross-type AF, which is R1 specific.
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Fuji is very limited in it's lenses selection and what it can do as a whole.
Can't shoot 20fps at 45mp birding with a 800mm f/5.6 with the GFX........
It is not a replacement for 35mm digital.
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I would say there isn't a compelling reason to buy the R1 if you have an R3. Just incremental improvements. It really should have been the R3 II.
Dam thing even looks the same! Most of the features is a copy and paste from the R3.
Only reason to buy the R3 II, ahem, R1. Is if you don't have the R3 and that kind of body appeals to you. But it's far from being a real R1 and not worth the upgrade from the R3 unless you are rolling in cash and don't care about money.
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Fair enough, but a 100 MP full frame sensor is going to have a very small pixel pitch and even more high ISO noise (per a pixel). Just my opinion, but I don't really see a need in a FF sensor to go up to 100 MP. For printing purposes, I can always upscale the image using Topaz Gigapixel AI.
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I disagree. Over the R3, which I currently own, there are several advantages of the R1 including the following;
1) cross-type AF sensors across the entire frame
2) dual CFE B cards so I can write redundantly to both without buffer limitations
3) pre-capture RAW with individual RAW files (shared with R5 Mk2)
4) 40 fps for high-speed burst though 30 fps was 90% time fast enough
5) brighter, higher resolution, bigger EVF
7) deeper buffer than the R3
8) strap lug on bottom of camera
9) improve EyeDection AF Hardware
10) faster sensor readout with electronic shutter
11) 6144-devision metering (compared to 384) for more precise exposure metering even when subject is small in frame. (shared with R5 Mk2)
I am glad to see they are using the same battery as the 1Dx Mk3 and R3 so I can keep using the LP-E19 batteries. Also glad they kept the resolution reasonable for excellent low-light performance.
Lastly I am glad they look the same because the Canon R3 has the best ergonomics (for me) of any camera I have ever used. Thank you Canon for not changing the ergonomics.
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