Canon Announces the EOS 5D Mark IV DSLR

[Maiaibing]

"Canon tells us the chief requests of 5D owners were more dynamic range and resolution, as well as better AF accuracy and speed."

Wow - Canon reacted to actual user complaints about AF, DR and MPIX!

Cannot wait for the deluge of hate and attacks Canon will get at this forum for pointing to those three areas of key improvement from the 5DIII.

Let the floodgates open!!
:-X

 

[bitm2007]

What a rip off. $3500 usd or £3600 gbp, what exchange rate are they using? $3500 usd is only about £2700!!!!

Won't be buying one now.

There is 20% VAT on importing cameras so that $3500 equates to 1.2*£2700 = £3240. US citizens have to pay sales tax in their own state, which brings up the price further. The Americans can correct me on this but I was led to believe that they should declare out-of-state purchases on their tax returns and pay then?

"should" is the operative word, but nobody does.

If you're in LA, you can just drive to Vegas for the day, pick one up in a store, no sales tax, drive home.

Post Brexit exchange rates don't helps us in the UK either, current rate 1.33 £ to the yen compared to 1.58 on June 23rd.

 

[K]

Thanks Canon UK, for screwing us Irish Photographers one more time!

5D4 price
Ireland €4899 https://store.canon.ie/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-body/1483C026/
UK £3629 = €4111.72 https://store.canon.co.uk/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-body/1483C026/
Germany €4065 https://store.canon.de/canon-eos-5d-mark-iv-gehaeuse/1483C026/

You must think we're bloody stupid!

If it is true that your national laws require manufacturers to warranty their products for 6 years, then that is simply Canon building a full shutter repair / main board replacement cost into each and every camera sold.

Expect Canon to eat those costs?

Nothing is free.

Thank the government.

 

[GuyF]

don't quite get the price complaints its the same price as the MkIII was when it was first released. The price dropped after 6 months.

Not exactly. In the UK it's the same price as the 5D3 kit was i.e. including the 24-105mm.

 

[E]

No, I mean that they crippled it on purpose. Are you enjoying bashing people who also use the video function?

Not at all.
The 1Dx2 has video but not as good as you want it. The 1DC has a better video functionality than the 1Dx but is even more expensive
It is just that people seem to be complaining that they have not got an improved a stills camera with as good video as the 1DC in a package for half the price.

Its the age old business formula: cost-functions-quality. Pick 2 from 3.

Then why should I be happy with 2 out of 3, when Canon cripples their products on purpose?

1D C lacks slow motion. I would have purchased a Mark II with slow motion, if there were one.

 

[gbaboukos]

Does anyone know about the FTP feature?is it possible to send ftp directly from the camera if i have wifi connection?

 

[K]

"Canon tells us the chief requests of 5D owners were more dynamic range and resolution, as well as better AF accuracy and speed."

Wow - Canon reacted to actual user complaints about AF, DR and MPIX!

Cannot wait for the deluge of hate and attacks Canon will get at this forum for pointing to those three areas of key improvement from the 5DIII.

Let the floodgates open!!
:-X

Resolution - check.

AF - check (from the specs, it has to be better)

Dynamic Range - yet to be determined. Although, being a 4 years newer sensor - it will surely be better. The question is, is it competitive with the industry?


I think Canon did a fine job of upgrades for the 5D4.

 

[Deleted member 378221]

I'm only responding to you referring me to the 1D X Mark II instead of the 5D Mark IV. It's not really comfortable buying an even more expensive and heavy camera, that is crippled (on purpose) in comparison to Canon's 2012 model.

Ah, but that is exactly what the video market looks like. To "get it all" on a professional level you have to buy a professional video camera, and canon makes sure you'll have to do that. Yes, nobody likes it and a lot of people thought the next wave of DSLRs would do away with the need for a dedicated video camera altogether. Alas, you "only" want 120 fps, someone else "only" wants c-log and a third person "only" wants 4K HDMI out. Well, if you try to make everyone happy then gues what, you have a full-fledged video camera and suddenly a lot less people see the need to buy a dedicated video camera anymore.
I'm not saying what Canon did here was great for the consumer, I'm only saing I never expected this camera to be the holy video cow.

I don't really get why so many here does not think it is legit to complain, when Canon deliberately cripples its products? The word "video" seems to be really provocative.

Every manufacturer "deliberately" cripples their products. It's called setting a price point. Not sayin Canon couldn't have thrown the one or other bone here (how about a non-crop 4K mode with slightly lower quality due to pixel binning, probably too hardware intensive though). But I think people have to get used to the idea that DSLRs will not replace video-ventric cameras for a while, if only because manufacturers say so.
The first manufacturer to really break away from the group and "do it all" for a low pricepoint will be celebrated and will change the market forever. However, there is still no perfect, affordable alternative. And until there is you will see no such endeavor from Canon.

 

[Eldar]

In the US it is $100 cheaper than a 5DSR. In Norway it is $1.000 more expensive. The camera looks OK, but the pricing is a f****** provocation. I'll pass!

 

[sanj]

Not buying.

 

[sanj]

Just ordered the 1dx2.

 

[bitm2007]

don't quite get the price complaints its the same price as the MkIII was when it was first released. The price dropped after 6 months.

Not exactly. In the UK it's the same price as the 5D3 kit was i.e. including the 24-105mm.

5D3 had a release price of £2999, 5D4 is £3599, a difference of £600, this isn't surprising as the post Brexit £ to yens exchange rates (1.58 on June 23, 1.33 now) almost accounts for this alone.

 

[justaCanonuser]

1.74x crop factor in 4K mode and the 5D4 still does not allow to use Canon APS-C crop lenses?

Strange idea, why should anyone use EF-S lenses on a 5D4 in that single special case?! You'd need to carry more lenses or would have to stick all the time with the crop mode...

Overall I like the specs of the 5D4, in particular I appreciate WiFi and near field communication - why not in the 7D2, Canon? But I personally wouldn't need 30 MP often, and I am no videographer desperately crying for 8k video or other fat tyres to show off. Trained by many years of shooting slide film that needs proper exposure I can work around the 5D3's lack of base ISO DR and limited capability in lifting shadows. Too much contrast is nearly always a proof of bad light anyway. So I think I'll stick a while with my old 5D3 as long as it does well (125 k shutter actuations so far).

 

[BeenThere]

I'm a still photographer with a Mkiii. I don't see a compelling reason to rush for the Mkiv.

 

[GuyF]

5D3 had a release price of £2999, 5D4 is £3599, a difference of £600, this isn't surprising as the post Brexit £ to yens exchange rates (1.58 on June 23, 1.33 now) almost accounts for this alone.

I'm aware of that but Suburbia didn't appear to be - they suggested the the price was the same. It isn't.

 

[K]

21 shot RAW buffer?


Awful.


Should have been 28 at a minimum....

 

[GuyF]

If I were a teenager I'd say, "OMG! OMG! Unboxing video!!!!! etc.", but I'm not, cough, cough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34iMO8I-4JY#t=21.891383

 

[neuroanatomist]

I'm a still photographer with a Mkiii. I don't see a compelling reason to rush for the Mkiv.

Makes sense. Many people assume that the Canon's target market for any new model is owners of the immediately previous model it replaces...but that's an unwarranted assumption.

 

[davidj]

1.74x crop factor in 4K mode and the 5D4 still does not allow to use Canon APS-C crop lenses?

Strange idea, why should anyone use EF-S lenses on a 5D4 in that single special case?! You'd need to carry more lenses or would have to stick all the time with the crop mode...

A quite important factor in the 5D IV not supporting EF-S lenses is that EF-S lenses have extra glass that goes deeper inside the camera that the mirror of an EF camera can hit. At least, that's what I've read here before.

 

[privatebydesign]

Not buying.

Oh no I'm sure Canon will live to regret not being able to satisfy you.....................

Just ordered the 1dx2.

And a home run for the 5D MkIV for Canon yet again.

They know us better than we know ourselves............