Canon EOS R1 & Canon EOS R5 Mark II announcement coming July 17

[Del Paso]

You are misquoting or misinterpreting me.
No, Canon's aim is to produce a successor to the former 1 series model. Sure, competitors exist.
Why should Canon compete with the unripe and unfinished A9III or with a Nikon made by a competitor having a tiny market share?
Why should we forcefully try to see Canon as a follower? No reason for this. Wait for July 17.

 

[snapshot]

Twenty years ago, I was shooting with an EOS 3. The eye-controlled focus point selection was worthless. I was surprised when the complaints about the EOS R3 version were largely the same. Perhaps the problem is my deep-set blue/gray eyes.

I liked it on my ELAN 7e. When I used the 7e, it was either that or set it to center point and focus and recompose. i think i would use it more now, as it may be easier to move focus between folks in a group setting with ECF (Elan 7e called it Eye-Controlled Focus) than using the thumb stick.

 

[ironfreak]

Just follow the original poster's order...
A little help: Lexus' controls are ergonomic...

So Lexus is Canon

 

[Far]

As Canon UK has announced the event, I was thinking it would be great if they set a good GBP price in the UK to encourage UK buyers. Something like £3800 aligned with the US $4000? What do you think?

 

[AlanF]

As Canon UK has announced the event, I was thinking it would be great if they set a good GBP price in the UK to encourage UK buyers. Something like £3800 aligned with the US $4000? What do you think?

Do you believe in fairies? Odds are a 25% mark up over US price.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Do you believe in fairies? Odds are a 25% mark up over US price.

I believe that Canon UK pricing is set by unfairies.

 

[Del Paso]

I believe that Canon UK pricing is set by unfairies.

A kind of "UK royals tax".
(If you can afford royals...)

 

[John Wilde]

The r3 was suppose to be the r1 bc canon got caught with their pants down when the a1 was released.

That's just Internet Fiction unsupported by any evidence.

"While the RF system is a major evolution of the EF system, we believe that in order to bestow an RF camera with the “1” model designation, we must achieve an even greater level of performance [than R3], and we continue to work towards reaching those high standards."

- Go Tokura, Canon Imaging, June 28, 2021

 

[Del Paso]

Ive waited this long bc canon had no a1 competition. The r3 was suppose to be the r1 bc canon got caught with their pants down when the a1 was released. Ive waited so long bc for 2 years we were lied to about an r1 being just around the corner. Now its here and its not going to be sony a1 competitor. Now i have to worry about canon cripple hammering the r5 mk2.

Once again the same senseless blah blah blah.
This nonsense has been repeated so often, even though it's been refuted by evidence many many times.
What I'm worried about is reading the same stupidities again, wondering if some brains aren't what the R5 II is supposed to be...

 

[koenkooi]

That would be a solution if it actually worked: the connection between the phone and camera drops very frequently and the gps position is frequently incorrect. I have experienced differences of more that 500 meters between in the actual and reported position.

I was planning to reply with “the app based gps has worked well the past year”, but I ran into a funny situation yesterday: My R7 and R8 were both connected to the same phone, the R8 tagged things with ‘Bunschoten-Spakenburg’, as expected, but the R7 tagged things with the coordinates for “Bergen, Norway”!

After noticing that, I used the backup tracklog to properly tag them.
I’ve put a fresh battery in the GP-E2 and will start using it again, more work, but fewer issues with tagging.

 

[vikingar]

I was planning to reply with “the app based gps has worked well the past year”, but I ran into a funny situation yesterday: My R7 and R8 were both connected to the same phone, the R8 tagged things with ‘Bunschoten-Spakenburg’, as expected, but the R7 tagged things with the coordinates for “Bergen, Norway”!

It never worked well on the R5 for me. There's always a few photos (5-10%) missing GPS info at the end of the day. I have a backup logging app on my phone so I can fix it after the fact, but it's annoying.

I make sure to have all the permissions enabled, launch the app in the foreground, etc and it generally does work but just isn't reliable. Whereas every single iPhone photo is properly tagged, so clearly it's possible.

And once in a while I'll forget to take the R5 out of airplane mode and get no GPS tags at all. My fault sure, but without it the battery is dead after a few days. Taking out the battery and transporting them separately helps, but is also cumbersome.

I'd take built-in GPS even if the total camera battery life was halved! For personal use it's just really useful to search by location, especially across different cameras.

And don't get me started on the GP-E2! Shame on Canon for still selling such a dinosaur of technology, at such a size and high price. It's 12 years old! With today's tech it would be possible to make it a lot smaller, lighter, faster, less battery-intensive, and more accurate. GPS running watches have come a long way in the same time, and can now provide all day GPS in a very small package.

 

[koenkooi]

It never worked well on the R5 for me. There's always a few photos (5-10%) missing GPS info at the end of the day. I have a backup logging app on my phone so I can fix it after the fact, but it's annoying.

I make sure to have all the permissions enabled, launch the app in the foreground, etc and it generally does work but just isn't reliable. Whereas every single iPhone photo is properly tagged, so clearly it's possible.

And once in a while I'll forget to take the R5 out of airplane mode and get no GPS tags at all. My fault sure, but without it the battery is dead after a few days. Taking out the battery and transporting them separately helps, but is also cumbersome.

I'd take built-in GPS even if the total camera battery life was halved! For personal use it's just really useful to search by location, especially across different cameras.

And don't get me started on the GP-E2! Shame on Canon for still selling such a dinosaur of technology, at such a size and high price. It's 12 years old! With today's tech it would be possible to make it a lot smaller, lighter, faster, less battery-intensive, and more accurate. GPS running watches have come a long way in the same time, and can now provide all day GPS in a very small package.

Setting the location settings to ‘always’ fixed the missing coordinates for me, but I won’t stop recording the backup gpx

As for the gp-e2, this is something the new multifunction shoe would be good for: a body powered GPS receiver that is multi-band and multi constellation. It would likely be €600, though.

 

[neurorx]

The paint chips around the mount on EF lenses were always ugly. Unfortunately inevitable.
I haven't had any issues with my RF lenses though I am careful of them.

I am guessing that you are referring to the RF white lenses.... If they are working okay, why would you replace them? For the big whites, there are camo kits. I haven't seen any for RF70-200 though but haven't looked a lot.

The whites are fine, it is the 28-70F2 that has been most noticeable.

 

[mdcmdcmdc]

And don't get me started on the GP-E2! Shame on Canon for still selling such a dinosaur of technology, at such a size and high price. It's 12 years old! With today's tech it would be possible to make it a lot smaller, lighter, faster, less battery-intensive, and more accurate. GPS running watches have come a long way in the same time, and can now provide all day GPS in a very small package.

I think it would be great if Canon (or a third party) came out with a new GPS receiver that was was small and didn't even have batteries, being powered by the body and sending back its data through the multifunction shoe.

I was planning to reply with “the app based gps has worked well the past year”, but I ran into a funny situation yesterday: My R7 and R8 were both connected to the same phone, the R8 tagged things with ‘Bunschoten-Spakenburg’, as expected, but the R7 tagged things with the coordinates for “Bergen, Norway”!

LOL. The Canon Connect app has worked fine for me, once I got it set up and working (which definitely wasn't the most intuitive process). And assuming I remember to open the app and connect to the camera!

Before that, I used a third party iOS app called GeoTagr. It doesn't connect to the camera, but it tracks your position while it's active. There's a companion macOS component that connects to it and adds the position info to the XMP files, based on their timestamps, after you've imported them. Not a perfect solution but always worked well for me.

I loved the idea of the built-in GPS when I got my 7Dii, but I stopped using it after a few times in favor of the GeoTagr app. It ate batteries, and seemed to take forever to lock.

 

[kaihp]

I loved the idea of the built-in GPS when I got my 7Dii, but I stopped using it after a few times in favor of the GeoTagr app. It ate batteries, and seemed to take forever to lock.

The likel culprit of problem if that the camery body has an appaling GNSS antenna, so it needs a lot of signal to work. The phone can work off both the GNSS receiver itself, but also that it gets the GNSS coordinates from the mobile data masts it's talking to.

 

[Sporgon]

I'm the most insignificant person on CR, driving a Toyota Prius.

Phew - I’m surprised you’re not a Sony user……

 

[Sporgon]

I think you underestimate the importance of cars in many people's lives.
Your car defines who you are (silly,isn't it?)
Fatties buy sports cars to feel dynanic and young, a bigger car "proves" you are important. With a car, you buy a personality (silly, isn't it?).
I've dealt with so many "important" customers buying "premium" cars as a testimony of their "importance" to take all this circus seriously.
And, during all that time, my wife and me were driving non-premium Renaults, to our fullest satisfaction. No one knew, apart from my collegues ans boss, and they didn't care at all...( My boss had a Lamborghini Diablo!).

Can’t call fatties Fatties nowadays !
Seriously though, it was the same thing with horses before cars came along.

 

[John Eblen]

R5 ii Worst rollout of a camera I have seen! How many buyers have you lost due to ever changing release dates?

 

[neuroanatomist]

R5 ii Worst rollout of a camera I have seen! How many buyers have you lost due to ever changing release dates?

You do realize this is a rumor site? Canon has not announced the R5II in any way, nor any date for the unannounced R5II, much less changed it. Clearly, you take the Internet way too seriously. Might be time for a break!

 

[AUGS]

R5 ii Worst rollout of a camera I have seen! How many buyers have you lost due to ever changing release dates?

The R5 ii is the worst marketing roll-out I\'ve ever seen. I have needed a second camera for a year now and keep seeing the release date change by 2 months for a year! I was close to changing my system to Nikon when I saw this July date. I hope so or I will be switching, and I do not want to. Best to all.

John H. Eblen

So, 2 first posts, 2 accounts, saying exactly the same thing.
Canon has not made any announcements regarding the R5m2. No specs, no release date, nothing. Anything reported on this site is a rumor of things that may come and as always stated - take with a dose of salt.

The only thing that Canon has stated - a regular release of RF lenses and the development announcement of the R1 - to be available "some time in 2024".