Canon EOS R1 Spotted in the wild at the Monaco GP
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Exactly!! I can't wait for this camera either. I am also anticipating the R5 Mk2 as well. Looks like a massive improvement over the R3 with more fps, deeper buffer, superior AF. I also would have like more MP even 28 instead of 24 would have been cool, but I understand Canon's decision to stick with 24 MP especially if it is a DGO sensor.
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I would say the leap from the R5 to R5 mark II should be more significant than the R3 to R1.
The R3 that came out in 2021 had the best high ISO performance among the 24 MP sensors, excellent AF and the Eye-controlled AF, etc...
The R5 based on what was available in 2020, was a step behind the R3 so I'm expecting a giant leap forward in performance when it comes to the R5 II. Probably this thing will be backordered till the spring of 2025 with a price mark up to match.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective, you make a lot of valid points one can only agree with, especially the necessary matching of the sensor to the lens. I enjoyed reading your insights.
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interesting. maybe a newer card will help some of my overheating problems.
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16 bit stills will still be a highlight on a spec sheet. Sony is the master of it but the devil is all in the details with lots of asterisks
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remember that the R1 will have 2 cards though. A bigger body will help dissipate heat much better than the R5 though
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I recall being able to use R5 raw files in LR before ACR was updated. Wasn't it just not having a profile added ie you can add your own profile or edit from the raw file?
Converting to DNG was also an option I think but it was 4 years ago
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Adobe added support for the R5's CR3 files pretty fast, but it took them about a year to add camera-specific colour profiles. I was using profiles from ColorFidelity as far as I remember.
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The R3 already has a big buffer... at least for the CFe card and not the UHS-ii card
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-R3.aspx#FrameRate,BufferDepth,Shutter
Depending on how well the pre-shutter is implemented, that's already a lot of depth and even more if cRAW is used.
The R1 will have a bigger buffer of course but also dual CFe so not delays from different card slots. I'm also sure that the internal bus will be faster than the R5's Digic processor
The R5 current limitation is the bus speed and not CFe sustained write speed which is already ~1.5GB/s for the good ones.
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I'm doing 80% landscape photography and 20% action. My R5 has been doing very well with some caveats.
The rumoured specs for the R5II don't tick the boxes for me yet. A 16-bit readout and therefore high dynamic range might be very interesting but it's a pure speculation at the moment. Apart from that, the R5II looks like a largely incremental update (again according to the most recent rumours from this site). AF improvements are not enough for me to put a preorder.
There are hidden tick-boxes that might convince me. For example, if Canon addresses the hot pixels problem. The hot pixels are a real disaster when shooting long exposures with the R5. But Canon will never tell us in a press-release that they've eliminated hot pixels. We will only know that after the release.
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I haven't seen any problems with hot pixels and I do a fair bit of long exposures eg 2 minute tracked astro. I think that LR does get rid of them automatically (I assume it does)!.
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A crop of my recent long exposure - 90 seconds. And that's with long exposure noise reduction (LENR) enabled. The hot pixels pop as soon as you lift the shadows a bit.
LENR reduces the issue, without it the image would've been much worse. But LENR doubles the exposure time because it takes a second dark frame of the same duration after the normal exposure. That means I have to wait 3 minutes instead of 1.5 and the camera is completely locked during this period. So I'm losing precious time during sunset/sunrise.
In Lightroom, Detail->AI Denoise further reduces the problem but even after that I get multiple hot pixels left for manual cleaning.
Another crop, 20s exposure without LENR. Because it's shorter, there's less hot pixels but they're pretty thick.
Generally the hot pixels start popping in exposures longer than 0.5 seconds. Also I feel there's less hot pixels when the air is cooler, which makes sense.
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I wouldn’t call the R5 a pro level camera for wildlife. The files look terrible in electronic shutter because of the drop in bit rate and you lose accurate tracking if using mechanical shutter. If you are going to track fast action in low light it really doesn’t help.
The files are also softer when using mechanical in burst because of the shutter shock. The rolling shutter on the electronic shutter makes its unusable for fast panning and fast wildlife (think song birds in flight). But what do I know, I have only shot with the R5 and R3 since they day of release.
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You make a lot of good points, the biggest upgrade the R5 2 needs to nail is the sensor readout.
I shot some American football in electronic shutter and it turned the football into a volleyball. I found it amusing.
The files from the R3 also blow it away.
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Yes, Lightroom does automatically map out all the hot pixels it can find but with more difficult background structures in the image it sometimes struggles.
One trick I use for astrophotography is to deactive LENR and take the dark-images later on manually (covering the lens/mount) and subtract them from the image in post. Then you can maximize your time in the field. The only important thing is to use the same settings (exposure time & ISO) and get them roughly temperature matched. Fortunately, Canon includes the sensor temperature in the EXIF data so you can select the matching ones very easy.
Both the longer exposure as well as the sensor temperature increase the amount of hot pixels.
That's why the more advanced astro cameras usually have a cooling system to cool them below ambient temperature and to precisely control the temperature to ensure perfectly matched dark-frames. Also this may be a reason why the R5 struggles a bit more, since the heat dissapation is reduced due to the IBIS.
However, this means that with every improvment in the heat dissapation (which is part of the rumors for the R5II), this will also improve the number of hot pixels even if that's not officially stated.
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Really? I guess I need to refund all of my customers who purchased images shot with the R5 (and can you believe it adapted EF lenses?) and return the prize money too. I'll have to pay interest to those who bought the ES images as well. Now, I won't have any coin to consider purchasing a R1 or R5mkII. What is one to do?
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Just because people like your work (and congratulation) doesn't invalidate the technical points. A blurry shot of a pygmy albino hippopotamus doing the handstands taken on a gameboy camera will always be more interesting than a crystal clear photo of a brick shot on a phase one. I don't see your point on adapted EF lenses but that's irrelevant. But I don't think you are here to have a constructive discussion!
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