Canon EOS R1 Spotted in the wild at the Monaco GP

[Navism]

So after follow Canon rumors a long time.
It has several possibilities.
1. Canon just listen pro suggestion. They told Canon mechanical shutter is important for R5 with some reasons after using Z9 and Z8.
2. Those tester have different cameras again.
Just like R5s rumors before. Some used 8x mp camera or over 100mp. Even they used 5Ds mkii.
Canon may not confirm 24mp QPAF or 3xmp stacked sensor.
3. No one mentions pro are testing R5 mkii. It means Canon comfirms the spec and making.
R1 is still developing.

 

[neuroanatomist]

The main (maybe the only one) technical reason why Canon engineers make it 24Mp: they can't make a sensor with a larger Mp count work fast enough.

Canon probably set quite a high bar for speed and speed has a higher priority for them.

More likely the driver for the decision was not technical. If the camera does 120 fps at 24 MP, it could have done 80 fps at 36 MP. If the target audience wanted more MP, they could have had it while still getting double anyone’s fps.

 

[f2_productions]

UPDATE 2 (05-25-2024 @ 6:07 PM, updated 7:40 PM) of what we found out:

• the coating is the same as on the one R1 picture we got from Canon, so this is the R1 (what a surprise)
• here not very good to see, but to have the list complete, the R1 features a recording light on the front above the model name, which can be found on some vlogging cameras by Sony.
• The Viewfinder is huuuuuge, so i am pretty sure we will get close to 10 million image dots resolution (~3.3MP) AND the 2. generation of Eye-Control
• the multishoe has a lockable cap as far as i and others have spotted
• the R1 is far bigger than the R3, just look how small the 85mm f1.2 looks on it
• A metal bar for straps at the bottom (not seen at the R3, but aviable at many vertical grips and all the 1D-Series cameras)
• battery percentage on the top LCD is also new, not seen on the R3 Top Screen or any other, but aviably on the normal flippy screen (thanks to @RayValdez360 who metioned it first)
• The top button layout is the same as on the R3, plus a WB-Button (thanks to @dougsv for mentioning it)
• On the top are also two new symbols near the M-Fn button and the LCD-light button in a blueish colour: according to Tool the gas-station-like Symbol is the FTP-Symbol which indicates a dedicated button for wireless transmission. The other one shows a crop-symbol which might be for fast cropping while being in playback mode (thanks @arbitrage for the hint that the blue colour are functions in playback mode)
• the ON-OFF switch on the side, is for controling the vertical grip functions and was used on previous 1D-series Cameras, but is not built into the R3
• the card slot seems just a little bigger than on the R3, and has a new locking mechanism
• the bottom shows us an HDMI logo, so it features full HDMI
• a diopter control is also built into the viewfinder. I expected it, but just have it in here
• Also the mode-switch is the same as on the R3 and R5
• SN shows a 31, so this is number 31 to be produced
• The registration-ID says DS126925, according to most of the people, it is not the same as on of the 3 (-22, -28, -04) we have seen in the rumored registrations
• overall is the camera bigger, but especially thicker than the R3, that also improves the ergnomics (it is possible to measure the dimensions, with the dimensions of the 85mm f1.2, but i won't do that )
• the battery voltage is something over 10V and it seems like it is higher than the R3's. While the 1DX III and R3's LP-E19 Battery runs with 10.8V, the R1 runs with something like 13 or 15 point something Volts as far as i have spotted out of the pictures. So does this lead to a new battery? It would be no surprise to me.
• from this new photo i attache here (posted first by @walnut) we also see that there are some things different and similar to the R3 and 1DX III (huge thanks to @uPhotic for sharing his thoughts):
  • flippy screen: there is a gap between the body and the screen which i think is "just" the classic 3-axis flippy screen we know very well from many EOS R-Cameras (except the R100) and not the Canon-Nikon mixup fist introduced on the Sony a7RV
  • AF Smart Controllers: on the picture we can see clearly the Smart Controlers as found on the 1DX III and R3
  • It appears there is an extra button by the ON-OF-LOCK switch, my eyes see it as an INFO button, it is placed similar on the R3, but the low resolution leaves plenty of room for interpretation
  • Joysticks are included, of course, but just to have it here
  • blue playback buttons below the display: The 1DXIII has 4, the R3 just 3, missing the protection button with the key symbol on it. From this perspective we only can see 2 buttons, but they are not in the same level as on the R3 and 1DX III, which makes me wonder what else is there...
  • the little white dot next to the dial wheel is the status light for writing/reading from the card(s) which also got a new position and shape

So this is all I could find in the pictures and here in the discussion - concluded to a more or less complete list of what to see in the pictures, updated today.

Let me know any further things you have noticed, and i will update it again.

 

[Ozarker]

It's not as though I could ever buy one, but I think 30mp would be really nice. I'd be disappointed in 24mp.

 

[walnut]

UPDATE 2 (05-25-2024 @ 6:07 PM) of what we found out:

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So this is all I could find in the pictures and here in the discussion - concluded to a more or less complete list of what to see in the pictures, updated today.

Let me know any further things you have noticed, and i will update it again.

I appreciate your efforts in collating this and keeping it up-to-date!

 

[jholbrookOFD]

Gotta have those extra 700 pixels eh?

If I am to contemplate upgrading from my R3 to it, then yes most certainly. Otherwise I will simply wait for another version, perhaps an R1mark2 to see what sensor it has in it. Yes I know 24mp is "plenty of pixels" but I would like to have a higher resolution while shooting HS sporting events.

 

[uPhotic]

• the battery voltage is something over 10V and it seems like it is higher than the R3's. While the 1DX III and R3's LP-E19 Battery runs with 10.8V, the R1 runs with something like 13 or 15 point something Volts as far as i have spotted out of the pictures. So does this lead to a new

If this is based on the SN plate on the bottom, the R3 also says 15.0V from what I can see.

Also from the back image it appears there is an extra button by the on off lock switch. Also looks to have some of the blue playback buttons from the 1dxIII that the R3 did not get (based on pixel mess so take with grain of salt). Looks to have the key looking protect button that was on the 1dxIII. Image also appears to show that there is a gap around the LCD suggesting flippy screen. My guess is it is just flippy screen not the 4-axis like some of the new Sony cameras have.

P.S. Photo from back of R1 is on Kym Illman's Instagram page. He is an F1 photographer and youtuber. He will most likely post a video in the next few days about the race and he commonly brings up little bits of information like this in them. So he might have insight about the R1 if he was able to talk and then share information.

 

[Emyr Evans]

Saw a lot of pro Canon bodies in the FA Cup final just now - R3s probably but difficult to say (BBC still broadcasts in 1080P in 2024, wtf?)

 

[tron]

OK this is the opinion of a hobbyist but with 24mp it may be a super camera (that Quad pixel seems very promising) BUT it is a R3 killer as one could say it looks like R3MKII. It is either one or the other. Just my opinion of course.

24 Mpixels for R1 seem plausible to me. Remember we were expecting 24 to 30 for 1DxIII and got 20 instead. But this means they have to try to make it the best 24mpixel camera ever. Having said that a supercharged R5MkII sounds more promising for my taste.

 

[Canon Rumors]

It's not as though I could ever buy one, but I think 30mp would be really nice. I'd be disappointed in 24mp.

24mp 6000 x 4000

30mp 6709 x 4473

Bitrate and readout are way more important than a meaningless jump in pixel count.

 

[jholbrookOFD]

24mp 6000 x 4000

30mp 6709 x 4473

I believe you are focusing on a small piece of information and are failing to see the bigger picture, no pun intended.

 

[Bonich]

The MP count mentioned (10MP) was for the EVF, not the camera...

are you sure?

 

[Canon Rumors]

I believe you are focusing on a small piece of information and are failing to see the bigger picture, no pun intended.

Enlighten me.

 

[jholbrookOFD]

24mp 6000 x 4000

30mp 6709 x 4473

Bitrate and readout are way more important than a meaningless jump in pixel count.

in only certain situations, you must have some very specific photographic needs that are likely not like what others want or need. to say that pixel count is meaningless is very short-sighted. Not everyone needs 3-4x the number of images to sort through, having a larger number of pixels with a slightly lower frame rate would be preferable for many of us, the readout speed will be more than high enough to accomplish this given modern technology.

 

[Canon Rumors]

in only certain situations, you must have some very specific photographic needs that are likely not like what others want or need. to say that pixel count is meaningless is very short-sighted. Not everyone needs 3-4x the number of images to sort through, having a larger number of pixels with a slightly lower frame rate would be preferable for many of us, the readout speed will be more than high enough to accomplish this given modern technology.

24 to 30 is meaningless. Don't read outside the lines.

All you're saying is you don't understand who the R1 is built for. That's cool... That's why they make other cameras too.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I believe you are focusing on a small piece of information and are failing to see the bigger picture, no pun intended.

The bigger picture is that it’s Canon’s job to figure out what the target audience will buy, then deliver it. Their maintained dominance of the camera market indicates they’ve done that successfully for two decades.

Apparently, you’re failing to see that. Or somehow you’ve deluded yourself into thinking that you know better than Canon what camera buyers want.

Funny how your complaints echo those when the 1D X III launched with the same 20 MP as its predecessor. I guess you think Canon hasn’t learned their lesson, or something. You might consider that you’re the one in need of some learning.

 

[john1970]

Unless the rumored specifications change, the R1 is going to be the R3 on steroids in terms of capability (hopefully not in mass). Frankly I really enjoy shooting with the R3 and look forward to the R1 improvements in S/N, AF performance, and buffer depth.

 

[jholbrookOFD]

24 to 30 is meaningless. Don't read outside the lines.

All you're saying is you don't understand who the R1 is built for.

I absolutely know what the R1 should be capable of and if they make the mistake of using a sensor with a lower pixel count will cause Canon to fall behind in the camera market. You may feel that 30mp is meaningless, but for many of us, you are completely wrong. Having pictures with higher resolution that allow for more fine detail is something that would be sorely missing on a flagship with a sensor that could easily have it and all of the other bells and whistles it will have. Having more pixels gives sports photogs the ability to zoom and crop where fewer pixels will reach the problem of grainy un-detailed pictures much faster. I have run into this far too many times, even with the R3.

 

[frankchn]

Their maintained dominance of the camera market indicates they’ve done that successfully for two decades.

Canon has been very good at delivering volume especially for entry-level cameras to maintain market share, but I was curious the other day and I looked up the financial reports of all the Japanese camera companies that break out their camera revenues. It somewhat surprised me to find that Sony's stills and video camera revenue is actually about 20% higher than Canon over the last year.



(Canon and Sony's revenues doesn't include network cameras, Sony revenues doesn't include their sensor business, Fuji revenues doesn't include Instax)

 

[f2_productions]

are you sure?

If someone took the 10MP from my post, then yes. I invented the number 10MP, because this would be the highest resolution EVF in any Camera, the Sony a1 has 9.44MP i think. And it would fit into a Canon flagship to set new records. I personaly would hope for the R1 to have a sensor resolution of 30-ish MP, but in the end it really won't matter for most of the users. Prefering speed over file size and resolution is not a bad idea.