Canon reveals PowerShot V1 Compact Camera

[neuroanatomist]

Canon managed to put a 24-120mm lenses in G5X Mark II. … Far more likely is Canon determined the focal length for this camera based on what they think their target market wants.

As someone else noted, many smartphones have a 16mm equivalent UWA camera. Starting with that FoV makes sense. It requires a more complicated zoom lens to start from UWA than from WA.

 

[Marximusprime]

I'd be more interested if it were more photo-focused. I couldn't care less about video. Maybe a 24-xxx focal length range.

 

[Richard CN]

Canon managed to put a 24-120mm lenses in G5X Mark II. And with a decent aperture on a camera that is ~45mm deep when the lens isclosed. Look at the G1x Mark II. Similar lens in an 1.5” sensor.

That's a fair comment. I honestly cannot recall how optically compromised those cameras are, I do remember once they went larger to the APS-C cropped in the Mark III, the optics seemed to suffer.

I agree that Canon wanted the 16-50 range as the primary goal and to make that good, you have to have a far smaller zoom range.


the camera is also far deeper for two reasons, though: cooling, and surprisingly, the new hotshoe seems to be much deeper than the old one.


Neither one of those cameras had much of a multi-purpose use case as much as the V1 does.

One thing you got me remembering about was that the G5X Mark II supported external EVF. I hope canon does the same with the global release.

 

[Richard CN]

As someone else noted, many smartphones have a 16mm equivalent UWA camera. Starting with that FoV makes sense. It requires a more complicated zoom lens to start from UWA than from WA.

it covers the traditional UWA to 2x zoom of a smartphone I guess? so when you think about it that way, it does make a bit of sense.

 

[Surab]

for now it seems Asia only.

There is a USB-C port, but no word on if it's a charging port. if it can't charge the camera, then I'm not sure it would release in Europe

If it didn't charge the camera, it would lose a lot of appeal as an always with you camera which should be chargeable with the ubiquitous USB C chargers people have.

So I'm certain it will have charging via USB.

 

[vikingar]

Today, the first camera that photographers use is a no-EVF smartphone. That's what they are used to.

Sure, it's fine until it isn't. Used the Canon M3 for years (no EVF) and thought it was fine. Until I was on vacation and bright sunlight made it impossible to see anything, and zooming beyond 100mm resulted in mostly shaky images.

The screens on Canon cameras are still rather dim. Smartphones have much brighter screens which are better in bright sunlight.

 

[koenkooi]

Me: I’m happy with the R8 + 28mm
My wife: Oh! That V1 looks very, very useful!

So the likelihood of bringing one on the summer vacation went from zero to ‘possibly’. Still unlikely, though.

 

[Timppa]

This looks like a fantastic release. Can't wait for the reviews and see how the stills are.

I've been wanting a camera like that, that I can pack with me whenever wherever and surpass easily the quality and AF of a phone. + It had buttons and dials!
Phone in the left pocket, camera in the right.
If my phone breaks, I still have camera.
I don't need to drain my phones battery when taking pics.
I don't need to be harassed by notifications when I take a picture.
I can take fantastic family videos with high-end AF tracking
The 16-50mm range is brilliant for my use cases.
If only canon would now follow up with a V1-tele. Same everything, but with bird eye AF and a 200-600 FF eq lens (it can be a bit bulkier ) - why swap lenses, if you can swap compact cameras

 

[YuengLinger]

Costs, weight and size. You named the 3 reasons!

I was hoping for a Wow! factor. Or maybe I wasn't. When Canon has Wow! products, I'm spending compulsively!

 

[YuengLinger]

I've been talking about the old g12 that I used to carry around everywhere that was super rugged and literally just used to swing it from my hand because it was great. I also remember using the ND filter which was the only time in my camera life I've ever had access to one. So I don't understand why ND filters are not a big thing in crop or full frame bodies at least as far as I know, being a Canon shooter.

But all of this simply sounds like a r 50 in a compact body with a fan. I don't know how to get excited about the even smaller sensor then an M50. I just don't really know what to make of this camera.. . It just seems like a old concept of a compact with updated features for a lot of money potentially.

Otherwise the zoom range does sound pretty cool. But that's because I shoot a ton of ultra wide hehehe.

If this were an R50 in a body this size, I'd buy it. But it ain't that. My kids are taking great shots with their R50. (But the 18-45mm kit lens is terrible. Unfortunately, I think many consumers are judging the R50 by this lousy lens.)

Yes, an internal ND option would be great.

Why is Canon offering an alternative to phones which looks to be about as capable as the better smartphones? What am I missing here?

 

[-pekr-]

Design first! That moment, when you realise the real product is somehow uglier, than the user mockup renders . How long should a design savy person wait, till the Canon surpasses the looks fo the M6 II silver for e.g.? I know that eventually subjectively nicer camera will not do better photos, but .....

 

[Anon]

Nice little camera, and very interesting to see the cooling solution. But I can`t help to think that it`s a little chubby. Reminds me of that little guy from the Simpsons:

 

[koenkooi]

If this were an R50 in a body this size, I'd buy it. But it ain't that. [...]

Genuine, non-rhetorical question: What's missing/different in the V1 that you don't consider it a shrunk down R50? On paper it seems, apart from the sensor size, better in pretty much every area.

 

[becceric]

Nice little camera, and very interesting to see the cooling solution. But I can`t help to think that it`s a little chubby. Reminds me of that little guy from the Simpsons:

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Thinking of the camera in that manner makes me glad there is no EVF. I'm not holding that against my face!

 

[John Wilde]

Looks nice and great sensor, but I'm quite suprised by the inusual zoom lens focal of 16 to 50mm (equivalent).

The (1" sensor) Sony ZV-1 II Vlog camera has a 18-50mm equivalent lens, so somebody decided that that range is what vloggers want.

 

[Navism]

Genuine, non-rhetorical question: What's missing/different in the V1 that you don't consider it a shrunk down R50? On paper it seems, apart from the sensor size, better in pretty much every area.

Some people wants small camera with bigger sensor.
If R50V is real, it may be the similar size without EVF but add the cooling fan.
just like R5c with cooling fan.

 

[Dragon]

for now it seems Asia only.

There is a USB-C port, but no word on if it's a charging port. if it can't charge the camera, then I'm not sure it would release in Europe

The Canon.jp listing does not show a battery charger in the box, so that suggests in-camera charging is available (unless it is common practice to separately list chargers in Japan and I don't recall that being the case).

 

[Dragon]

it covers the traditional UWA to 2x zoom of a smartphone I guess? so when you think about it that way, it does make a bit of sense.

The 1.4x crop mode will deliver an 11MP image at 71mm equiv. using the sweet spot of the lens and a sensor area equivalent to a 1 in sensor (with relatively fat pixels). That will be a far higher IQ image than any phone can deliver in spite of the loss of just under 1 MP. Reading through the specs on the canon.jp site convinced me that this is a camera I will most likely add to the stable. It is a little chunkier than the average compact, but what other camera in that size range can record downscaled 4k video for over an hour?. With DPAF, it will be a killer little video cam and the stills feature set is quite decent. If the lens is suitably sharp, it will be wildly popular.

 

[Dragon]

One thing you got me remembering about was that the G5X Mark II supported external EVF. I hope canon does the same with the global release.

The "accessories" listing on the canon.jp site is clearly just a starter, so I expect there will be more additions and an EVF certainly makes sense. With the new hot shoe, it likely won't support either of the EVFs used on the M cameras, but brighter would be better anyway.

 

[Dragon]

However, Canon has listed the recording times as being far more conservative. There is no mention if this with the overheat set to high. I suspect this is with the camera set to normal overheat operation.

The way I read that table, it is focused on battery life, not overheating. That is the only explanation for shorter recording time at cold temperatures. If the camera will run off of a PD charger, then there may well be no limit to recording time other than card capacity.